From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Moreland Subject: Re: Re: Org-mode screencasts Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4C9C12FC.5040503@ccbr.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37179 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oyz35-0006v1-71 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyz33-0001Aa-Mo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:11 -0400 Received: from mail-gw0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:46352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyz33-0001AS-Ev for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:09 -0400 Received: by gwj16 with SMTP id 16so1235088gwj.0 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:34:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Hendy Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Charles Cave Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding. I had it in my script and = must've lost it in one of the edits. I do prefer making these on the = Mac. It makes piecing them together much easier. Recordmydesktop on = Linux will do single takes fine, but stitching it together in the end = may be a chore. Maybe you guys are good enough to do it all in one take = though :) John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer. I'm = open to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode' = intro could help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like = I was a year ago). Some of these issues could also be addressed on the = episode's webpage, which would link to relevant docs and info. As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance = between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just = show only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool, = unfortunately). I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about = folding. Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for = more as well. -Richard On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote: > Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing "screencaster's = voice." >=20 > My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about = org-mode viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only = got into emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is = that I might not even have known what "meta" was... I can't recall, but = did you clarify meta =3D alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac? >=20 > Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on = a Mac and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and = carat symbols are on their own keyboards? >=20 > As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta + = left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions show = up as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said "M-n s" and "M-n w" to = narrow on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw one part = of that flash on the screen. >=20 > Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could = use. I have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his = computer and would love to have something this simple and clear-cut. >=20 >=20 > Great work, again. > John >=20 > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson = wrote: > On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote: > I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the = very basics. It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it = is helpful for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics = of Org-mode. >=20 > http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/ >=20 > Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, = but I wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them. = I figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes = covering special topics would be a good start. >=20 >=20 > Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting. >=20 > But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting = things > can be shown. >=20 > Great job! >=20 > So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice = into the > presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the wording = in one > part, do you have to record the whole thing over again? I assume you = can change > it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that capability. >=20 >=20 > -Richard >=20 > On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote: >=20 > Richard Moreland ncogni.to> writes: > I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to > demonstrate Org-mode. >=20 > Great idea! I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts > based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing > a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal. >=20 > I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is > http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate. > This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded > then hosted on their website. >=20 > Charles >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >=20