From: "Avdi Grimm" <avdi@avdi.org>
To: Ben Alexander <bva@alexanderonline.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode Org-Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How you can help
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:44:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ecbcf0fb0810241144x16513f06wfa7429c4499137cb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A07BAD9-7045-4A42-BEAE-CD67DD491E61@alexanderonline.org>
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Ben Alexander <bva@alexanderonline.org> wrote:
> Ok, here's your chance. This is something that has bothered me for quite
> some time, but I've never been able to reliably reproduce the problem. And
> it's such a small issue.
Thanks! I'll try to take a look tonight or this weekend.
> So the value of a testing framework is that this: if I'm going to announce
> to the world that I can't get something to work, (like the tab key), I'm
> going to make darn sure it's a real problem. I'm going to spend the time to
> create a small sample file, that reliable creates the problem, and I'm going
> to try a few different scenarios. But if I start to get lost or confused
> about which settings I've fiddled with or what is supposed to happen, I'll
> wander away from the problem and I won't submit the bug. We all lose in
> that scenario. But if the testing framework exists, and it is lightweight
> enough for novice emacs users (advanced enough to use M-x but not advanced
> enough to read lisp) then maybe I would have used it for this example.
For the record, I normally would never expect the user to submit
tests. A description of the problem and some sample data is all I
expect. Writing the a test to reproduce the behavior is the
programmer's responsibility as far as I'm concerned.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-24 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-23 12:04 How you can help Ben Alexander
2008-10-23 13:43 ` Bernt Hansen
2008-10-23 15:04 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 15:49 ` Richard Riley
2008-10-23 16:22 ` Ben Alexander
2008-10-23 17:02 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-24 12:13 ` Richard Riley
2008-10-24 15:39 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-24 16:27 ` Manish
2008-10-24 18:41 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-23 19:13 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-24 12:19 ` Richard Riley
2008-10-23 16:19 ` Bernt Hansen
2008-10-24 5:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-10-23 17:01 ` Jason F. McBrayer
2008-10-23 23:46 ` Eric Schulte
2008-10-23 14:20 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 14:50 ` Manish
2008-10-23 15:46 ` Eric Schulte
2008-10-23 16:18 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-23 14:55 ` Ben Alexander
2008-10-23 16:26 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 16:42 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-23 17:33 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 19:10 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-24 21:09 ` Tom Breton (Tehom)
2008-10-24 18:33 ` Ben Alexander
2008-10-24 18:44 ` Avdi Grimm [this message]
2008-10-24 19:02 ` Jeff Mickey
2008-10-26 19:49 ` org-cycle broken when cursor is at ellipses Ben Alexander
2008-10-26 21:31 ` Cameron Horsburgh
2008-10-27 8:47 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-10-27 8:47 ` Carsten Dominik
[not found] ` <D43ED86C-EFD4-4BA8-8528-4F82DB11D625@alexanderonline.org>
2008-10-23 17:12 ` How you can help Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 15:08 ` Sebastian Rose
[not found] <E1Kt27M-0008Tx-0J@box188.bluehost.com>
2008-10-23 16:11 ` Robert Goldman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-23 7:35 Carsten Dominik
2008-10-23 8:12 ` Manish
2008-10-23 9:24 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 10:28 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 15:23 ` Russell Adams
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