From: Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com>
To: Avdi Grimm <avdi@avdi.org>
Cc: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>,
emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com>,
Ben Alexander <bva@alexanderonline.org>
Subject: Re: Re: How you can help
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:19:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3yabcu2njs.fsf@development.richardriley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ecbcf0fb0810231213o702ca937j8f75aaff291132f8@mail.gmail.com> (Avdi Grimm's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:13:55 -0400")
"Avdi Grimm" <avdi@avdi.org> writes:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Richard Riley
> <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> The nature of OSS means that the community using the product keep it
>> stable and bug free. I dont think the efforts to produce meaningful
>> regression tests would be beneficial in an ever morphing product like
>> org-mode. Clearly my humble opinion on that one :-;
>
>
> I don't know of a single open-source project with more than one or two
> developers which doesn't have a suite of regression tests. In fact, I
> know of a number of OSS projects which *will not* accept a patch
> unless tests accompany it. Once a codebase grows beyond a one-person
> pet project, tests become increasingly necessary for maintainability.
Then I have to disagree. There are many OSS projects with no regression
tests. Is this a good thing? Not necessarily. But the nature of emacs,
elisp and the customization features make it, for me, a slightly
different kettle of fish. In fact the nature of this thread and the
nature of most emacs customizations suggests to me that the regression
tests are merely using the SW and seeing if it works as expected - not
an automated process. This is the important piece : automated regression
tests. Regression testing as in "run it and see if it works" is fine -
automated ones are, well, another issue. Lets see how this pans out. Be
sure I am not against testing, regression testing etc, I am merely
suggesting that automated tests are possibly less effective than a
proper beta release to users which is currently provided.
--
Do you realize if it weren't for Edison we'd be watching TV by candlelight? ~Al Boliska
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-24 12:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-23 12:04 How you can help Ben Alexander
2008-10-23 13:43 ` Bernt Hansen
2008-10-23 15:04 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 15:49 ` Richard Riley
2008-10-23 16:22 ` Ben Alexander
2008-10-23 17:02 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-24 12:13 ` Richard Riley
2008-10-24 15:39 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-24 16:27 ` Manish
2008-10-24 18:41 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-23 19:13 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-24 12:19 ` Richard Riley [this message]
2008-10-23 16:19 ` Bernt Hansen
2008-10-24 5:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-10-23 17:01 ` Jason F. McBrayer
2008-10-23 23:46 ` Eric Schulte
2008-10-23 14:20 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 14:50 ` Manish
2008-10-23 15:46 ` Eric Schulte
2008-10-23 16:18 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-23 14:55 ` Ben Alexander
2008-10-23 16:26 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 16:42 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-23 17:33 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 19:10 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-24 21:09 ` Tom Breton (Tehom)
2008-10-24 18:33 ` Ben Alexander
2008-10-24 18:44 ` Avdi Grimm
2008-10-24 19:02 ` Jeff Mickey
2008-10-26 19:49 ` org-cycle broken when cursor is at ellipses Ben Alexander
2008-10-26 21:31 ` Cameron Horsburgh
2008-10-27 8:47 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-10-27 8:47 ` Carsten Dominik
[not found] ` <D43ED86C-EFD4-4BA8-8528-4F82DB11D625@alexanderonline.org>
2008-10-23 17:12 ` How you can help Sebastian Rose
2008-10-23 15:08 ` Sebastian Rose
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