From: David Rogers <davidandrewrogers@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:34:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bo38hgs6.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130928103048.GO12411@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> (Suvayu Ali's message of "Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:30:48 +0200")
Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi Joseph,
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 09:22:02AM +0200, Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote:
>>
>> Example: I am presently mainly interested to see if it is possible to use
>> gnus to write a scientific letter with all conveniences of texlive. Of
>> course I can open a tex file with letter class and send to my colleague a
>> pdf file. But it would be more convenient to write an email and using
>> conversions to html and png images to send to him directly this email. I
>> guess it is possilbe to do it with gnus. But the documentation is esoteric:
>> I hear about links, but how it works concretly with example understanble by
>> a newby ... mystery. It is therefore frustrating and quickly discouraging.
>
> Your example is not beginner's tutorial at all! Nor is it something
> that the manual can cover. For esoteric/specific needs like this
> "advanced tutorials" are more appropriate.
Part of this situation, part of what can be improved about the
tutorials, is that a beginner cannot know whether his request belongs in
a beginner's tutorial or not. Beginners cannot know ahead of time what's
hard and what's easy, and beginners often wonder "Can it do that amazing
thing I've been wishing I could do?" when they see a piece of software
that's new to them.
Face it - Org-mode is ALREADY esoteric in itself, so it's quite
reasonable that beginners will continue to expect it to be able to do
esoteric things that don't happen to be the ones that are already easy -
unless there's a convenient way for them to find out.
--
David R
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-01 20:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-28 6:11 Org Tutorials need more structure Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 7:22 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 8:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 10:30 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 11:59 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 12:36 ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-28 13:10 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 16:02 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 17:19 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-10-01 7:59 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-10-01 20:34 ` David Rogers [this message]
2013-10-01 21:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 8:48 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 10:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 14:26 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 17:14 ` Ian Barton
2013-09-28 17:43 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 17:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 19:06 ` Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
2013-09-28 19:52 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-28 20:50 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 21:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 21:52 ` John Hendy
2013-09-28 23:14 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 23:29 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 0:29 ` John Hendy
2013-09-29 7:28 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-30 8:04 ` Alan Schmitt
2013-09-30 17:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-30 18:36 ` Peter Neilson
2013-09-30 21:07 ` Eduardo Ochs
2013-10-01 8:52 ` Michael Brand
2013-10-01 5:34 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-01 8:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-10-01 12:40 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-30 17:56 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 8:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-29 15:31 ` Matt Price
2013-09-30 7:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-10-01 14:08 ` William Denton
2013-10-02 1:10 ` M
2013-10-02 18:06 ` Alan E. Davis
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2013-09-29 16:43 Rustom Mody
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