From: Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:14:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <524762DF.8020607@verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+M2ft8=4WtpFSOt=z3sVW6M=4h4bNioYWOEqgRG+jirxctr1A@mail.gmail.com>
On 9/28/2013 5:52 PM, John Hendy wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
>> Dnia 2013-09-28, o godz. 16:50:09
>> Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net> napisał(a):
>>
>>> On 9/28/2013 3:52 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>>>> Aloha Carsten,
>>>>
>>> snip
>>>> First, I think that most statements about "what Org-mode is" are
>>>> outdated. Many of them are quite good, but they represent the
>>>> previous state of an evolving system and so fail to capture the
>>>> full scope. To my mind, Org-mode is a "research programming
>>>> interface" written by and for scientists who take very seriously
>>>> certain core values of the scientific enterprise--reproducibility,
>>>> open access, and open source (a partial list).
>>> Strongly disagree with the sentiment. My undergraduate degree may
>>> gave been Physics, but I work as a freelance paralegal. I use Org
>>> Mode for project (file) planning, scheduling, drafting documents,
>>> etc. Also, I believe that there are some very active participants on
>>> this list who are not scientists and have made great contributions.
>> +1. Although I'm also a scientist (mathematics), I used Org-mode /once/
>> for science, and it turned out that I felt very much constrained and
>> quickly got back to LaTeX, where I felt much more comfortable.
>> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
>> Adam Mickiewicz University
>>
> This is starting to remind me of bike-shedding. Org-mode is a toolbox
> providing various things that can work toward whatever end one wants.
> It's agnostic to field. It doesn't really matter what the end uses are
> -- Org-mode "is" what functions it provides. How those are combined by
> others in various fields, lines of work, or so on are simply
> illustrations of it's capabilities with respect to neat ways of
> combining various aspects of what Org "is."
>
> Thus, I wouldn't try to pitch these things one way or another ("Org is
> great for paralegals" or "Org is the answer for those doing
> re-producible research"); I'd simply list what it does as what is "is"
> and what it can be used "for" as a way to entice new users and help
> get into the top results of some google searches for
> tools/solutions/etc..
>
> It seems we all get what it really "is," (TODOs/agenda, universal
> markdown -> export to tons of formats, allowing mixing of
> prose/code/results, and so on), but are sort of trying to lay claim to
> why these tools make it best suited toward some particular field.
>
> Whether you use one of Org's features or all of them, it is what it is
> and this can be highlighted in a neat manner and made appealing to
> those looking for help in these relevant areas of life.
>
>
> John
>
>
You said it better than I.
Charlie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-28 23:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-28 6:11 Org Tutorials need more structure Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 7:22 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 8:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 10:30 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 11:59 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 12:36 ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-28 13:10 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 16:02 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 17:19 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-10-01 7:59 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-10-01 20:34 ` David Rogers
2013-10-01 21:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 8:48 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 10:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 14:26 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 17:14 ` Ian Barton
2013-09-28 17:43 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 17:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 19:06 ` Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
2013-09-28 19:52 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-28 20:50 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 21:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 21:52 ` John Hendy
2013-09-28 23:14 ` Charles Millar [this message]
2013-09-28 23:29 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 0:29 ` John Hendy
2013-09-29 7:28 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-30 8:04 ` Alan Schmitt
2013-09-30 17:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-30 18:36 ` Peter Neilson
2013-09-30 21:07 ` Eduardo Ochs
2013-10-01 8:52 ` Michael Brand
2013-10-01 5:34 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-01 8:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-10-01 12:40 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-30 17:56 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 8:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-29 15:31 ` Matt Price
2013-09-30 7:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-10-01 14:08 ` William Denton
2013-10-02 1:10 ` M
2013-10-02 18:06 ` Alan E. Davis
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2013-09-29 16:43 Rustom Mody
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