* Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda @ 2009-04-21 9:03 Tassilo Horn 2009-04-21 9:38 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-21 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi all, I have this entry in an org-file. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ** Übung Grundlagen der Softwaretechnik (B 016) :teaching: <2009-04-22 Wed 08:30-10:00 +1w> <2009-04-29 Wed 10:15-11:45> (Für Hannes übernehmen) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I expect it to be displayed every wednesday after 2009-04-22 for 08:30-10:00 and on 2009-04-29 it should be displayed twice: one at the usual time and one for 10:15-11:45. But the agenda shows only the regular entry (08:30-10:00) and omitts the exception. If I reorder the timestamps, so that the exception comes first, only the exception will be shown on 2009-04-29. Every other wednesday shows the regular repeater date. What do I have to do to make that entry showing up twice on 29th April? BTW: Is it possible to specify an end date for repeating events? Currently I just deactivate timestamps when they're obsolete, but sometimes I'd like to check which appointments I had some month ago. Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-21 9:03 Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-21 9:38 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 16:00 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Hi all, > > I have this entry in an org-file. > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > ** Übung Grundlagen der Softwaretechnik (B 016) :teaching: > <2009-04-22 Wed 08:30-10:00 +1w> > <2009-04-29 Wed 10:15-11:45> (Für Hannes übernehmen) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > I expect it to be displayed every wednesday after 2009-04-22 for > 08:30-10:00 and on 2009-04-29 it should be displayed twice: one at the > usual time and one for 10:15-11:45. > > But the agenda shows only the regular entry (08:30-10:00) and omitts > the > exception. If I reorder the timestamps, so that the exception comes > first, only the exception will be shown on 2009-04-29. Every other > wednesday shows the regular repeater date. > > What do I have to do to make that entry showing up twice on 29th > April? Make the second one a SCHEDULED time stamp, for example. When Org collects entries for the day, it goes through the files, once for plain time stamps, once for scheduled, once for deadlines. When an entry matches, it stops looking for timestamps in the same entry. So you need to make the stamps of different kind to make them show up both. > BTW: Is it possible to specify an end date for repeating events? No, except if you use a diary sexp in the time stamp. But not with native Org syntax. - Carsten > Currently I just deactivate timestamps when they're obsolete, but > sometimes I'd like to check which appointments I had some month ago. > > Bye, > Tassilo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-21 9:38 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 16:00 ` Tassilo Horn 2009-04-22 8:34 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-21 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: Hi Carsten, >> What do I have to do to make that entry showing up twice on 29th >> April? > > Make the second one a SCHEDULED time stamp, for example. When Org > collects entries for the day, it goes through the files, once for > plain time stamps, once for scheduled, once for deadlines. When an > entry matches, it stops looking for timestamps in the same entry. So > you need to make the stamps of different kind to make them show up > both. Hm, ok, that works. But what if I have to enter a few other exceptions? What do other people do in that situation? Add a subheading with all exception dates? Why does org stop with the first match? Efficiency? At least I don't care about that, so if this could be made customizable I wouldn't object. >> BTW: Is it possible to specify an end date for repeating events? > > No, except if you use a diary sexp in the time stamp. But not with > native Org syntax. Ok, thanks. Bye, Tassilo -- No person, no idea, and no religion deserves to be illegal to insult, not even the Church of Emacs. (Richard M. Stallman) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-21 16:00 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-22 8:34 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-22 8:47 ` Tassilo Horn 2009-04-22 19:21 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 8:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Apr 21, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > > Hi Carsten, > >>> What do I have to do to make that entry showing up twice on 29th >>> April? >> >> Make the second one a SCHEDULED time stamp, for example. When Org >> collects entries for the day, it goes through the files, once for >> plain time stamps, once for scheduled, once for deadlines. When an >> entry matches, it stops looking for timestamps in the same entry. So >> you need to make the stamps of different kind to make them show up >> both. > > Hm, ok, that works. But what if I have to enter a few other > exceptions? > What do other people do in that situation? Add a subheading with all > exception dates? > > Why does org stop with the first match? Efficiency? At least I don't > care about that, so if this could be made customizable I wouldn't > object. Efficiency, and to avoid cluttering if you have recorded several time stamps in an entry. See, the problem is that all these lines will look exactly the same in the agenda, because they all show the same headline! However, I do see that your applications, with a different time-of-day, does in fact make sense. Anyway, get the latest version and do (setq org-agenda-find-multiple-timestamps-per-entry t) Question to everyone: Should this be the default? - Carsten > >>> BTW: Is it possible to specify an end date for repeating events? >> >> No, except if you use a diary sexp in the time stamp. But not with >> native Org syntax. > > Ok, thanks. > > Bye, > Tassilo > -- > No person, no idea, and no religion deserves to be illegal to > insult, > not even the Church of Emacs. (Richard M. Stallman) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-22 8:34 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 8:47 ` Tassilo Horn 2009-04-22 19:21 ` Bernt Hansen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-22 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: Hi Carsten, >> Why does org stop with the first match? Efficiency? At least I >> don't care about that, so if this could be made customizable I >> wouldn't object. > > Efficiency, and to avoid cluttering if you have recorded several time > stamps in an entry. See, the problem is that all these lines will > look exactly the same in the agenda, because they all show the same > headline! > > However, I do see that your applications, with a different > time-of-day, does in fact make sense. > > Anyway, get the latest version and do > > (setq org-agenda-find-multiple-timestamps-per-entry t) Carsten, you are incredible! > Question to everyone: Should this be the default? I tend to t. If an entry has more than one timestamp for a day, then it looks like an exception to me. If not, then the entry should have a better structure, i.e. if it was --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- * Some meeting with Hugo <2009-04-22 Wed> - breakfast <2009-04-22 Wed 09:44> - lunch <2009-04-22 Wed 12:44> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- it should better be: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- * Some meeting with Hugo <2009-04-22 Wed> ** breakfast <2009-04-22 Wed 09:44> ** lunch <2009-04-22 Wed 12:44> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Or if you don't want the breakfast and lunch in the agenda anyway, one could use 09:44 or an inactive timestamp instead. Bye, Tassilo -- VI VI VI - The Roman Number Of The Beast ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-22 8:34 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-22 8:47 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-22 19:21 ` Bernt Hansen 2009-04-22 20:09 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-22 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Tassilo Horn, emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > Anyway, get the latest version and do > > (setq org-agenda-find-multiple-timestamps-per-entry t) > > Question to everyone: Should this be the default? I don't think I ever use more than one timestamp per entry. As long as there is no noticeable performance hit then I have no preference for what the default is. -Bernt PS. I can't find this variable in the latest git sources so I couldn't try it myself to see if there was a noticeable performance hit. It seems the variable is really org-agenda-skip-additional-timestamps-same-entry instead. Toggling this variable doesn't seem to change how long the agenda displays for me. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-22 19:21 ` Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-22 20:09 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-22 20:16 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: Tassilo Horn, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1281 bytes --] On Apr 22, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > >> Anyway, get the latest version and do >> >> (setq org-agenda-find-multiple-timestamps-per-entry t) >> >> Question to everyone: Should this be the default? > > I don't think I ever use more than one timestamp per entry. > > As long as there is no noticeable performance hit then I have no > preference for what the default is. > > -Bernt > > PS. I can't find this variable in the latest git sources so I couldn't > try it myself to see if there was a noticeable performance hit. > > It seems the variable is really > org-agenda-skip-additional-timestamps-same-entry instead. Yes, I went back and forth between these two names. However, all the other vriables doing similar stuff are called -skip-, so I decided to do the same here. Sorry for the mixup. > > Toggling this variable doesn't seem to change how long the agenda > displays for me. It does for me. With Tassilos original example: * Übung Grundlagen der Softwaretechnik (B 016) :teaching: <2009-04-22 Wed 08:30-10:00 +1w> <2009-04-29 Wed 10:15-11:45> (Für Hannes übernehmen) I get either one or two entries on April 29..... - Carsten [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2123 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-22 20:09 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 20:16 ` Tassilo Horn 2009-04-22 20:25 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-22 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Bernt Hansen, emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: >> Toggling this variable doesn't seem to change how long the agenda >> displays for me. > > It does for me. With Tassilos original example: > > * Übung Grundlagen der Softwaretechnik (B 016) :teaching: > <2009-04-22 Wed 08:30-10:00 +1w> > <2009-04-29 Wed 10:15-11:45> (Für Hannes übernehmen) > > I get either one or two entries on April 29..... I think Bernt meant that he doesn't notice a difference in how long it takes till the agenda is displayed. Same for me, with 5 org-files with about 2000 lines in total. Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-22 20:16 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2009-04-22 20:25 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-22 22:02 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: Bernt Hansen, emacs-orgmode On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > >>> Toggling this variable doesn't seem to change how long the agenda >>> displays for me. >> >> It does for me. With Tassilos original example: >> >> * Übung Grundlagen der Softwaretechnik (B 016) :teaching: >> <2009-04-22 Wed 08:30-10:00 +1w> >> <2009-04-29 Wed 10:15-11:45> (Für Hannes übernehmen) >> >> I get either one or two entries on April 29..... > > I think Bernt meant that he doesn't notice a difference in how long it > takes till the agenda is displayed. Ahh, of course. - Carsten > Same for me, with 5 org-files with > about 2000 lines in total. > > Bye, > Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Headline with 2 timestamps is displayed only once in the agenda 2009-04-22 20:25 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 22:02 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-22 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Tassilo Horn, emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > >> I think Bernt meant that he doesn't notice a difference in how long it >> takes till the agenda is displayed. > > Ahh, of course. Yes that's what I meant :) -Bernt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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