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From: Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Gerry Agbobada <emacs-orgmode@gagbo.net>
Subject: Re: Emacs as an Org LSP server
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:41:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201214194117.GI6352@maokai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tusonsma.fsf@gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 02:26:30AM +0800, TEC wrote:
> This simply isn't what's happening here. I'm just starting work on my
> own little project to give non-emacs people a taste of Org's
> capabilities. I didn't think the way I spend my time was such a matter
> of public concern to the Emacs community.

I don't think you're being criticized for how you choose to spend your
time. It's certainly an interesting coding project to try and do. I've
been very impressed with your ability. For instance discussing the
Latex templates you made and your updates to the website. Please don't
think this is a personal beef with you, or dismissive of your talents.

Your original post to the list on this topic was to solicit
collaboration from other Org users regarding making an LSP server for
Org, and that's where the disagreement comes from.

Clearly there are strong opinions over the direction, degrees of
freedom, and potential misuse of LSP as a technology. The issue
regarding MS's involvement in the LSP standard isn't your problem, nor
under your control. I'd suggest you just accidentally stepped into
"it". You clearly have valid reasons to like LSP, and I admire many of
the goals as well. I (and others) appear to disagree with the LSP
project implementation.

From my other email, I see this thread as discussing whether the Emacs
community supports spending time on competing technologies, or whether
that time is better focused on improving Emacs and Org.

I think the criticism has been to the effect that there are a variety
of reasons not to support spending community time on competing
technologies like LSP without significant consideration. That
additional consideration is likely larger than us both, and could up
being a project level governance concern and even a legal concern.

In summary I'm positive over you doing a proof of concept code to
satisfy yourself, but I share the concerns over it being a larger
project.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-14 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-02 15:05 TEC
2020-12-13 10:41 ` TEC
2020-12-13 11:05   ` Bill Burdick
2020-12-13 14:36   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13 17:33     ` TEC
2020-12-13 20:23       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14  0:54         ` Gerry Agbobada
2020-12-14  1:04           ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14  1:10         ` George Mauer
2020-12-14 11:41   ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 15:25     ` TEC
2020-12-14 15:46       ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 15:55         ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:02           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 17:08             ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:05               ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 18:12                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 19:16                   ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 20:18                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 21:34                     ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 20:20                 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 21:45                   ` Tom Gillespie
2020-12-14 18:39               ` LSP is Microsoft's patented protocol - " Jean Louis
2020-12-14 18:44                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:52                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  5:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-15  5:50                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  6:09                         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15  6:25                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  6:51                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-14 17:27             ` Gerry Agbobada
2020-12-14 18:16               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 18:26                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:50                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 19:41                   ` Russell Adams [this message]
2020-12-14 18:51                 ` Bastien
2020-12-15  8:51               ` Bill Burdick
2020-12-14 19:50             ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 21:51               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 22:35                 ` Dominik Schrempf
2020-12-14 23:36                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 17:22           ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 17:24             ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:57               ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 18:04                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:39             ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 17:45               ` TEC
2020-12-16 11:49   ` Bastien

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