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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: TEC <tecosaur@gmail.com>
Cc: Neil Jerram <neiljerram@gmail.com>,
	org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: LSP is Microsoft's patented protocol - Re: Emacs as an Org LSP server
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 21:39:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <X9exY9a7/TFCmF7P@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873608pai7.fsf@gmail.com>

* TEC <tecosaur@gmail.com> [2020-12-14 20:24]:
> 
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> 
> > [LSP is a evil plot from microsoft]
> 
> Hi Jean,
> 
> I can see that you're overly concerned about Microsoft being able to
> somehow exert control over this. It may assuage your concerns to see an
> example "technology stack" that Org-LSP could fit into.

Not interested in patented processes. Before any Emacs or GNU software
such as Org within Emacs or Emacs or other software start interacting
by using patented protocols one shall consult attorneys of GNU. Once
attorney confirm that it is alright then go ahead.

See:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/software-patents.html

and
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fighting-software-patents.html

> Microsoft has provided a /standard/ that a huge number of editors/IDEs
> have adopted with /independent implementations/. At this point there is
> /nothing/ M$ could do to interfere with how the above works.

In Emacs world we have Emacs standard. There is no need to rely on
Micro$oft's patented LSP language server protocols. There is so much
more than you think that M$ can interfer with how the above works.

> You seem to be focusing on the term "server" in the name. This seems to
> be a red herring in this case. In LSP the server is analogous to "emacs
> --daemon" and the client to "emacsclient".

Yes? Don't insist on something that is not, I fully understand what it
is. I am talking of bigger picture and giving you references that may
or may not expand your awareness.

> I appreciate your concerns Jean, and am aware of Microsoft's history,
> however I do not believe there is any factual basis for your conclusions
> in this instance.

See the patent
https://uspto.report/patent/app/20190149346

> There is no need to loose sleep over an LSP Server for Org existing :)
> On the contrary, I think it has the potential to ultimately enrich the
> Org community (see previous discussions).

Enrich it with unencumbered patent-free solutions.

Adopting patented technologies in GNU projects shall be verified by
GNU attorneys.

Jean


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-14 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-02 15:05 TEC
2020-12-13 10:41 ` TEC
2020-12-13 11:05   ` Bill Burdick
2020-12-13 14:36   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13 17:33     ` TEC
2020-12-13 20:23       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14  0:54         ` Gerry Agbobada
2020-12-14  1:04           ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14  1:10         ` George Mauer
2020-12-14 11:41   ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 15:25     ` TEC
2020-12-14 15:46       ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 15:55         ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:02           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 17:08             ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:05               ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 18:12                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 19:16                   ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 20:18                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 21:34                     ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 20:20                 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 21:45                   ` Tom Gillespie
2020-12-14 18:39               ` Jean Louis [this message]
2020-12-14 18:44                 ` LSP is Microsoft's patented protocol - " TEC
2020-12-14 18:52                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  5:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-15  5:50                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  6:09                         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15  6:25                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  6:51                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-14 17:27             ` Gerry Agbobada
2020-12-14 18:16               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 18:26                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:50                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 19:41                   ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 18:51                 ` Bastien
2020-12-15  8:51               ` Bill Burdick
2020-12-14 19:50             ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 21:51               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 22:35                 ` Dominik Schrempf
2020-12-14 23:36                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 17:22           ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 17:24             ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:57               ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 18:04                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:39             ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 17:45               ` TEC
2020-12-16 11:49   ` Bastien

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