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From: "Gerry Agbobada" <emacs-orgmode@gagbo.net>
To: "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs as an Org LSP server
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 01:54:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <deb1c1bf-5753-4082-bb21-cdd85c217543@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X9Z4Pq0oDVw9XNzq@protected.rcdrun.com>

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On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, at 21:23, Jean Louis wrote:
> * TEC <tecosaur@gmail.com> [2020-12-13 20:35]:
> > > From a perspective that some server has to know what user is writing
> > > it is advisable to use one own's servers. But if idea gets popular
> > > some company will commercialize it and centralize user's data and
> > > privacy is gone.
> > 
> > FYI the nature of LSP (as I understand it) is that the "server" is a
> > locally running service that responds to signals from a "client" (code
> > editor / IDE).
> 
> That is how it starts until corporation like Github or somebody else
> takes it over. Just look at Github pattern. Git was decentralized
> system that they centralized for 50 million developers and included
> eye candies that one cannot self-host as one wants.
> 

Hello,

The "server" in Language Server Protocol is a program that answers to LSP requests that's all. It could just be a program written in a FOSS licence (like Palantir pyls 
https://github.com/palantir/python-language-server ) that needs to read the files on your computer in order to answer requests. Data (i.e your org files on your filesystem) does not need to be centralized for it to work.

Git was eventually ""centralized"" by github because version control systems and software forges are based on sharing the data between multiple users, so someone can (and will) offer the tradeoff to make the sharing easier at the cost of privacy/freedom etc.

LSP servers are just file indexers that implement a common protocol to make writing integrations easier. They are called servers because they are long running process listening to messages, but really everything could (and most of the time do) run offline, with file watches over your "project" and sockets for I/O with clients that run locally


Gerry Agbobada

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-14  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-02 15:05 TEC
2020-12-13 10:41 ` TEC
2020-12-13 11:05   ` Bill Burdick
2020-12-13 14:36   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13 17:33     ` TEC
2020-12-13 20:23       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14  0:54         ` Gerry Agbobada [this message]
2020-12-14  1:04           ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14  1:10         ` George Mauer
2020-12-14 11:41   ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 15:25     ` TEC
2020-12-14 15:46       ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 15:55         ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:02           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 17:08             ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:05               ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 18:12                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 19:16                   ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 20:18                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 21:34                     ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 20:20                 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 21:45                   ` Tom Gillespie
2020-12-14 18:39               ` LSP is Microsoft's patented protocol - " Jean Louis
2020-12-14 18:44                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:52                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  5:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-15  5:50                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  6:09                         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-15  6:25                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  6:51                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-16  5:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-14 17:27             ` Gerry Agbobada
2020-12-14 18:16               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 18:26                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 18:50                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 19:41                   ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 18:51                 ` Bastien
2020-12-15  8:51               ` Bill Burdick
2020-12-14 19:50             ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 21:51               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 22:35                 ` Dominik Schrempf
2020-12-14 23:36                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 17:22           ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 17:24             ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:57               ` Neil Jerram
2020-12-14 18:04                 ` TEC
2020-12-14 17:39             ` Russell Adams
2020-12-14 17:45               ` TEC
2020-12-16 11:49   ` Bastien

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