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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Autoloading side effects (was: Re: [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:49:03 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tn4ql0$bu2$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iliie0j1.fsf@localhost>

On 11/12/2022 16:45, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> We cannot do much about Emacs' handling of autoloads, but what we can
> (and should) do is changing org-mouse to become a global minor mode.
> Then, loading org-mouse will cause no side effects.

I am afraid, requirement that loading should not cause side effects is 
too strict and it will make usage inconvenient. Examples:
- ol-info calls `org-link-set-parameters'.
- org-protocol installs an advice for `server-visit-files'. (It should 
not be necessary, but currently Emacs does not provide a better option.)

However I agree that it is undesired when attempt to call interactive 
help causes side effects. I would say that in such cases loading of 
packages should be sandboxed and should not propagate to global scope.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-11 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-11  3:25 [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require Matt Lundin
2022-12-11  3:49 ` Greg Minshall
2022-12-11  4:38 ` Samuel Wales
2022-12-11  9:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-11 14:49   ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-12-12 10:25     ` Autoloading side effects (was: Re: [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require) Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-12 16:20       ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-13  9:52         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-13 14:32           ` [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require Max Nikulin
2022-12-14  9:59             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-12 15:42     ` Autoloading side effects (was: Re: [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require) Matt Lundin

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