Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor

[Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org>]

Am 20.05.2021 um 16:11 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:57 AM Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> I'm not really sure we need bare substyles at all. At least in biblatex
>>>> it's the basis for the other commands.
>>>
>>> Though see my followup message on autocite config.
>>>
>>> Does that change this discussion?
>>
>> Why?
> 
> I put it in the form of a question, because I'm not sure, but ...
> 
> 1. I wasn't sure Nicolas was aware of this config option, nor how one
> would configure it currently (but it seems necessary in general)

No, it's only necessary to configure this if you don't want the defaults.

In authoryear styles you have autocite=inline by default
In authortitle styles you have autocite=inline by default
In verbose styles you have autocite=footnote by default

So, if you use an authoryear/authortitle style, but want 
autocite=footnote you'll have to declare this as a package option.


> 2. If you set default to autocite=inline, which is to say the
> non-bare/plain style, the issue you note goes away?
> 

Not sure. Autocite* => parencite*, but there's still no cite/bare* then.

>> cite/year => \citeyear won't work as this will just print the year
>> without wrapping it in parentheses. It also won't trigger the ibid. in
>> the next citation.
>> cite/bare = \cite would also work in that particular citation, but an
>> author might remove the preceding sentence, which will make the ibid.
>> disappear. You will then have a regular bare citation (= "Doe 2020", or
>> "Doe, Title") instead of just the year or the title in parentheses.
> 
> OK, this is one of those nuances; I need to think on this one.

That's obviously an edge case. We can of course choose to start with a 
reasonable set of styles and extend later.

Denis