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From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
To: org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 06:36:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-FPGOZNo4tnj3Zt0CRufm9GN2uVhoujzhve-gmUPZwFR7cqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <605c9586-384c-c4d4-d827-f97b1baf7c84@mailbox.org>

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:18 AM Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> wrote:

> Could be, but also [cite/text/bare] or cite/foot/bare or cite/super/bare
> as they all are essentially just wrappers around the plain cite command
> (textcite is a bit different, but parencite and footcite really have the
> same definition as cite, the only difference being that they add some
> kind of wrapper.)
> So, starting from parencite and then removing the wrapper would my logic
> instead ;-)
> But maybe cite/plain or cite/basic or so?

First, are those two suggestions just synonyms for cite/bare?

Or are you indeed suggesting completely changing the current logic of
these styles and substyles? E.g "bare' substyle becomes rather a
"plain" or "basic" style?

If yes, I need to think on this more.

> |-----------+---------------+--------------|
> | parens    | noauthor-caps | Parencite*   |
> | parens    | noauthor      | parencite*   |
> | parens    | caps          | Parencite    |
> | parens    |               | parencite    |
> |-----------+---------------+--------------|
> | plain     | noauthor-caps | Cite*        |
> | plain     | noauthor      | cite*        |
> | plain     | caps          | Cite         |
> | plain     |               | cite         |
> |-----------+---------------+--------------|

Second, I don't understand some of the above.

Why "noauthor", for example? Is that not handled currently with a "year" style?

cite/year/caps

And how would all of this map to natbib and citeproc?

The style+substyles really should work well across the output formats,
and gracefully fallback if certain variants, particularly in biblatex,
aren't available in other formats.

Is that the case with your suggested changes?

Bruce

PS - I hadn't yet integrated sub-styles in this table, but we probably
need a table that does that.

https://github.com/bdarcus/bibtex-actions/wiki/Org-cite


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-20 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-18 15:13 Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-18 18:40 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20  7:22   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-05-20 10:38     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 10:03 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 10:43   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 12:33     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 13:44       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-19 13:50         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 14:31         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 14:46           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 15:23           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20  8:04             ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 10:36               ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message]
2021-05-20 11:56                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 11:59                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 13:24                   ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 13:07                 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 13:22                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 13:56                     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 14:11                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 14:29                         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 15:14                           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 17:06                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 21:51                           ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 22:37                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-05-20 22:51                               ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-21  0:07                                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-05-21 13:38                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 13:08                 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 17:15               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 21:54                 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-21 13:29                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 14:32             ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 13:00 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-21 11:49 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-21 13:13   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-21 13:25     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-25 14:30       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-26 20:04         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-29 14:44 ` [org-cite, oc-csl] print_bibliography options Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 15:15   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-29 16:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 16:30       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-31 18:10         ` András Simonyi
2021-05-31 21:54           ` Bruce D'Arcus

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