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From: Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org>
To: Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>,
	org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `biblatex' citation processor
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 16:29:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8280d9d-083a-0151-906d-355bf84681f9@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF-FPGO4-pJXnguvVdn5JDa1M=CoHcHoyzv2sr-3W139TusO0A@mail.gmail.com>

Am 20.05.2021 um 16:11 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:57 AM Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> I'm not really sure we need bare substyles at all. At least in biblatex
>>>> it's the basis for the other commands.
>>>
>>> Though see my followup message on autocite config.
>>>
>>> Does that change this discussion?
>>
>> Why?
> 
> I put it in the form of a question, because I'm not sure, but ...
> 
> 1. I wasn't sure Nicolas was aware of this config option, nor how one
> would configure it currently (but it seems necessary in general)

No, it's only necessary to configure this if you don't want the defaults.

In authoryear styles you have autocite=inline by default
In authortitle styles you have autocite=inline by default
In verbose styles you have autocite=footnote by default

So, if you use an authoryear/authortitle style, but want 
autocite=footnote you'll have to declare this as a package option.


> 2. If you set default to autocite=inline, which is to say the
> non-bare/plain style, the issue you note goes away?
> 

Not sure. Autocite* => parencite*, but there's still no cite/bare* then.

>> cite/year => \citeyear won't work as this will just print the year
>> without wrapping it in parentheses. It also won't trigger the ibid. in
>> the next citation.
>> cite/bare = \cite would also work in that particular citation, but an
>> author might remove the preceding sentence, which will make the ibid.
>> disappear. You will then have a regular bare citation (= "Doe 2020", or
>> "Doe, Title") instead of just the year or the title in parentheses.
> 
> OK, this is one of those nuances; I need to think on this one.

That's obviously an edge case. We can of course choose to start with a 
reasonable set of styles and extend later.

Denis


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-20 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-18 15:13 Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-18 18:40 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20  7:22   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-05-20 10:38     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 10:03 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 10:43   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 12:33     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 13:44       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-19 13:50         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 14:31         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 14:46           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-19 15:23           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20  8:04             ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 10:36               ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 11:56                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 11:59                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 13:24                   ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 13:07                 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 13:22                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 13:56                     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 14:11                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 14:29                         ` Denis Maier [this message]
2021-05-20 15:14                           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-20 17:06                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 21:51                           ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 22:37                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-05-20 22:51                               ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-21  0:07                                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-05-21 13:38                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 13:08                 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-20 17:15               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 21:54                 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-21 13:29                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-20 14:32             ` Denis Maier
2021-05-19 13:00 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-21 11:49 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-21 13:13   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-21 13:25     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-25 14:30       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-26 20:04         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-29 14:44 ` [org-cite, oc-csl] print_bibliography options Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 15:15   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-29 16:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 16:30       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-31 18:10         ` András Simonyi
2021-05-31 21:54           ` Bruce D'Arcus

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