Re: Exporting for word processors

[Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com>]

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@Carsten.

Thanks for pointing that variable out.  I'll experiment.  I was encouraged
by the fact that even when italics didn't work the way I wanted, the
/slashes/ were always still intact.  I figured if I got desperate, I could
always do a second pass on an export hook, but I'll mess with the variable.
How nice that it's flexible.

@ Matthew:

Thanks for your setup.  I'll be glad to poke around with it.

@ Sebastian:

Matthew's setup is considerably more refined than mine, but so far I've had
good sucess with ebib, another BibTeX manager for Emacs.  It lets you
customize a few citation commands and makes it very easy to snag a quick
citation key while writing.  So far I write in org-mode and try to arrange
it so I never have to look at the LaTeX file.  But mine is a thesis, and
it's not to the final stages yet.  At the moment I still run
(xe)latex-bibtex-(xe)latex manually, but that's only because I haven't sat
down to customize the org variable to customize the latex command and run
bibtex.

Scot




On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
>
> Sebastian Titz <sebastian.titz@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I am in the same position --- i.e., I use emacs/auctex/org-mode/biblatex
> >> in a field in which MS Word is the default option. Many of the things I
> >> write have to be converted to doc format at some point.
>
> > could you elaborate on how you use biblatex with org-mode and auctex,
> > since auctex doesn't support biblatex?
>
> I'll try to keep this brief, since I don't want to talk too much about
> AUCTeX in the org-mode forum.
>
> I've found that AUCTeX and RefTeX work very well with biblatex, since
> all biblatex requires is to run latex, then bibtex, then latex again.
>
> I use the Chicago Manual of Style biblatex package:
>
>
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/biblatex-contrib/biblatex-chicago-notes-df/
>
> To make this work with AUCTeX, I've created a custom reftex-cite-format
> for the citation types I use most often:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (setq reftex-cite-format
>      '(
>        (?c . "\\cite[]{%l}")
>        (?C . "\\cites[]{%l}")
>        (?t . "\\citetitle[]{%l}")
>        (?T . "\\citetitles[]{%l}")
>        (?a . "\\autocite[]{%l}")
>        (?A . "\\autocites[]{%l}")
>        (?h . "\\headlessfullcite[]{%l}")
>        (?x . "[]{%l}")
>        (?X . "{%l}")
>        ))
>
> (setq reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args t)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> I've also set the following variable to get the appropriate faces:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (setq font-latex-match-reference-keywords
>      '(("cites" "[{")
>        ("autocite" "[{")
>        ("autocites" "[{")
>        ("citetitle" "[{")
>        ("citetitles" "[{")
>        ("headlessfullcite" "[{")))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Finally, I've had to hack at a couple of reftex functions to change the
> regular expressions that are used to identify citation macros for:
>
>   1) jumping to the matching entry in the bib file
>      (reftex-view-crossref)
>
>   2) generating a bib file from a tex file
>      (reftex-all-used-citation-keys).
>
>        - This is necessary because the current regexps don't recognize
>          the plural citation macros (e.g. \cites, \autocites, etc.).
>
> Unfortunately, these regexps are hardcoded into reftex, so I have to
> load the rewritten functions via a reftex-mode-hook. And since Carsten
> is no longer the maintainer of RefTeX, it's not quite as easy to get a
> customize option for a RefTeX regexp as it is to get one in org-mode. :)
>
> The whole setup is by no means perfect, but it works fine for me.
>
> Now, for the org-mode part of the post. I generally use org-mode for
> drafting and AUCTeX for revising/polishing and adding formal citations.
>
> If I plan exporting something quickly from org-mode, I use the following
> function for a quick and dirty way to get citation info from my bib
> files into my org-mode files. (And, of course, I make heavy use of
> org-mode's wonderful footnote features.)
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (defun my-reftex-citations ()
>  (interactive)
>  (let ((reftex-cite-format
>         '(
>           (?f . "%a. %t. %j, %v, %b. %r: %u, %y. %p.\n")
>           (?F . "<<%l>>\n\n%a. %t. %j, %v, %b. %r: %u, %y. %p.\n")
>           (?s . "%a, %t, %y\n")
>           (?c . "\\cite[]{%l}"
>           (?l . "[[%l]]\n")
>           (?L . "%a, %t, %y. [[%l]]\n"))))
>    (reftex-citation)))
>
> (define-key text-mode-map (kbd "C-c y") 'my-reftex-citations)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> If I wanted to export for biblatex directly from org-mode (which I
> haven't tried yet), I think I would ignore most of the special
> biblatex/Chicago macros and just use the \cite macro inside of footnotes
> to make conversion/export to other formats a bit easier.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Matt
>
>
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