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From: Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
To: Sebastian Titz <sebastian.titz@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, windsor.10@osu.edu
Subject: Re: Exporting for word processors
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 10:48:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871vqycm6f.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <978fd2360905090456sd9b81afodf389ae72f4523ee@mail.gmail.com> (Sebastian Titz's message of "Sat, 9 May 2009 13:56:54 +0200")

Hi Sebastian,

Sebastian Titz <sebastian.titz@gmail.com> writes:

> Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
>
>> I am in the same position --- i.e., I use emacs/auctex/org-mode/biblatex
>> in a field in which MS Word is the default option. Many of the things I
>> write have to be converted to doc format at some point.

> could you elaborate on how you use biblatex with org-mode and auctex,
> since auctex doesn't support biblatex?

I'll try to keep this brief, since I don't want to talk too much about
AUCTeX in the org-mode forum. 

I've found that AUCTeX and RefTeX work very well with biblatex, since
all biblatex requires is to run latex, then bibtex, then latex again.

I use the Chicago Manual of Style biblatex package:

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/biblatex-contrib/biblatex-chicago-notes-df/

To make this work with AUCTeX, I've created a custom reftex-cite-format
for the citation types I use most often:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq reftex-cite-format
      '(
	(?c . "\\cite[]{%l}")
	(?C . "\\cites[]{%l}")
	(?t . "\\citetitle[]{%l}")
	(?T . "\\citetitles[]{%l}")
	(?a . "\\autocite[]{%l}")
	(?A . "\\autocites[]{%l}")
	(?h . "\\headlessfullcite[]{%l}")
	(?x . "[]{%l}")
	(?X . "{%l}")
	))

(setq reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args t)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I've also set the following variable to get the appropriate faces:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq font-latex-match-reference-keywords
      '(("cites" "[{") 
	("autocite" "[{") 
	("autocites" "[{") 
	("citetitle" "[{") 
	("citetitles" "[{") 
	("headlessfullcite" "[{")))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Finally, I've had to hack at a couple of reftex functions to change the
regular expressions that are used to identify citation macros for:

   1) jumping to the matching entry in the bib file
      (reftex-view-crossref)

   2) generating a bib file from a tex file
      (reftex-all-used-citation-keys). 

        - This is necessary because the current regexps don't recognize
          the plural citation macros (e.g. \cites, \autocites, etc.).

Unfortunately, these regexps are hardcoded into reftex, so I have to
load the rewritten functions via a reftex-mode-hook. And since Carsten
is no longer the maintainer of RefTeX, it's not quite as easy to get a
customize option for a RefTeX regexp as it is to get one in org-mode. :)

The whole setup is by no means perfect, but it works fine for me.

Now, for the org-mode part of the post. I generally use org-mode for
drafting and AUCTeX for revising/polishing and adding formal citations.

If I plan exporting something quickly from org-mode, I use the following
function for a quick and dirty way to get citation info from my bib
files into my org-mode files. (And, of course, I make heavy use of
org-mode's wonderful footnote features.)

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun my-reftex-citations ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((reftex-cite-format 
	 '(
	   (?f . "%a. %t. %j, %v, %b. %r: %u, %y. %p.\n")
	   (?F . "<<%l>>\n\n%a. %t. %j, %v, %b. %r: %u, %y. %p.\n") 
	   (?s . "%a, %t, %y\n") 
           (?c . "\\cite[]{%l}"
	   (?l . "[[%l]]\n")
	   (?L . "%a, %t, %y. [[%l]]\n"))))
    (reftex-citation)))

(define-key text-mode-map (kbd "C-c y") 'my-reftex-citations)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If I wanted to export for biblatex directly from org-mode (which I
haven't tried yet), I think I would ignore most of the special
biblatex/Chicago macros and just use the \cite macro inside of footnotes
to make conversion/export to other formats a bit easier.

Hope this helps.

Matt

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-09 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-08 19:10 Exporting for word processors Jeffrey Windsor
2009-05-08 20:03 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-05-08 23:04   ` Scot Becker
2009-05-09  6:55     ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-09 11:56   ` Sebastian Titz
2009-05-09 15:48     ` Matthew Lundin [this message]
2009-05-09 16:37       ` Scot Becker
2009-05-12  7:33 ` Paul R
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-11  8:14 Giovanni Ridolfi

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