iPhone app for Org view and capture

iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Richard Moreland]

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Hi all,

I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.  We are still
working out some of the details, but so far we have it running on the phone
in a fairly usable state.  It needs some polish, but it is very nice to see
my Org data easily accessible on a mobile device with offline access.  To be
clear, we aren't trying to run Emacs on the device.  The goal is to view Org
files and agendas as well as capture new notes.

Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

Once we feel the basics are worked out, we will solicit a request for beta
testers and feedback, but for now you'll have to be satisfied with the demo
video :)

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Bastien]

Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to> writes:

> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
> http://ncogni.to/ mobileorg-demo1.mov

WOW... Great work!

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 Bastien

Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Greg Newman]

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Bastien took the words out of my mouth! :D

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to> writes:
>
> > Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
> > http://ncogni.to/ mobileorg-demo1.mov
>
> WOW... Great work!
>
> --
>  Bastien
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Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Giles Chamberlin]

Yet another enthusiastic beta tester in waiting here!
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Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[peter.frings]

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On 08 Sep 2009, at 16:24, Richard Moreland wrote:

> I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.  We are  
> still working out some of the details, but so far we have it running  
> on the phone in a fairly usable state.  It needs some polish, but it  
> is very nice to see my Org data easily accessible on a mobile device  
> with offline access.  To be clear, we aren't trying to run Emacs on  
> the device.  The goal is to view Org files and agendas as well as  
> capture new notes.
>
> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov
>
> Once we feel the basics are worked out, we will solicit a request  
> for beta testers and feedback, but for now you'll have to be  
> satisfied with the demo video :)


Wow indeed. Some things immediately came up when viewing the movie; I  
hope you don't mind me posting them so soon.

I imagine the app does not require a live connection to the server. In  
order to work offline, I think that the app must
- clearly show the time of downloading each document,
- be able to capture and store multiple notes when offline and forward  
them when online. A way of reviewing the stored notes, possibly edit  
or remove them would be a bonus.

I could imagine that captured but not yet forwarded notes appear in  
the 'capture.org' document entry (on the App), marked as not-forwarded  
and being editable and removable. After syncing, these notes become  
part of the real capture.org document and thus read-only, just like  
the rest.


Oh well, you probably thought of all that, so I'll just shut up now...

Cheers,
Peter.

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Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Richard Moreland]

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Hi Peter,

You nailed nearly point-for-point the current state of capturing notes  
in the app (as of today, after the demo video was made).  Thanks for  
your comments, I hadn't considered displaying the last sync time.   
That will indeed be handy.

As you imagined, you can operate entirely offline (that was my goal in  
the first place, after all).  You can view your outlines, add as many  
notes as you like, and sync whenever you care to.  You can edit/delete  
notes if they haven't been synced yet.  There's also a handy indicator  
on the bottom of the screen letting you know how many notes aren't yet  
synced.

Thanks,
Richard

On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:18 AM, peter.frings@agfa.com wrote:

> Wow indeed. Some things immediately came up when viewing the movie;  
> I hope you don't mind me posting them so soon.
>
> I imagine the app does not require a live connection to the server.  
> In order to work offline, I think that the app must
> - clearly show the time of downloading each document,
> - be able to capture and store multiple notes when offline and  
> forward them when online. A way of reviewing the stored notes,  
> possibly edit or remove them would be a bonus.
>
> I could imagine that captured but not yet forwarded notes appear in  
> the 'capture.org' document entry (on the App), marked as not- 
> forwarded and being editable and removable. After syncing, these  
> notes become part of the real capture.org document and thus read- 
> only, just like the rest.
>
>
> Oh well, you probably thought of all that, so I'll just shut up now...
>
> Cheers,
> Peter.
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Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[John Rakestraw]

> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
> http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

For some reason I can't get to the video just now, but I'll still say
that this is really good news. Looking forward to the app.

-- 
John Rakestraw

Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Sven Bretfeld]

Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to> writes:

> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  http://ncogni.to/
> mobileorg-demo1.mov

Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be an
Android port as well?

Greetings

Sven

Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Richard Moreland]

Thanks for checking it out.  Unfortunately I don't have access to any  
Android hardware, and now that I've got Org on my iPhone, I probably  
won't be looking at any other hardware for a while :)  But I would be  
happy to help contribute code/ideas/experience/etc to any developers  
interested in taking it on.

On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:

> Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be an
> Android port as well?
>
> Greetings
>
> Sven

Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Carsten Dominik]

On Sep 9, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Richard Moreland wrote:

> Thanks for checking it out.  Unfortunately I don't have access to  
> any Android hardware, and now that I've got Org on my iPhone, I  
> probably won't be looking at any other hardware for a while :)  But  
> I would be happy to help contribute code/ideas/experience/etc to any  
> developers interested in taking it on.

To follow up on this:  What we are doing with this development is
not only write an iPhone app.  Equally important may be that
we are also establishing a protocol for this kind of asymmetric
synching, and implement the Emacs side of it.  Once that is in
place, apps for different platforms can be made, maybe re-using
some of Richard's code.  All these apps will be able to use the
Emacs integration.

- Carsten

>
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
>
>> Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be  
>> an
>> Android port as well?
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Sven
>
>
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Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[tycho garen]

On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 03:34:36PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:

> To follow up on this:  What we are doing with this development is
> not only write an iPhone app.  Equally important may be that
> we are also establishing a protocol for this kind of asymmetric
> synching, and implement the Emacs side of it.  Once that is in
> place, apps for different platforms can be made, maybe re-using
> some of Richard's code.  All these apps will be able to use the
> Emacs integration.

Depending on the format of the files that the iPhone/J2me/etc. app
needs, would it not just make sense to use git/svn/etc as the
asymmetric protocol for synchronizing things? Or is this too simple? 

Cheers,
sam

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Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[news]

"Sven Bretfeld" <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:

> Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to> writes:
>
>> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  http://ncogni.to/
>> mobileorg-demo1.mov
>
> Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be an
> Android port as well?
>
My thoughts exactly. Especially since I recently bought an Android phone
specifically so that I could use org on it.
My current solution is to run emacs under Debian on the phone (see here:
http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?func=view&catid=9&id=2248)
however this uses alot of memory and causes the phone to reboot when the
memory runs out, very annoying.

Anyone like to give a rough guess of the number of man hours required to
make an Android org app?

-- 
aleblanc

Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[news]

"Sven Bretfeld" <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:

> Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to> writes:
>
>> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  http://ncogni.to/
>> mobileorg-demo1.mov
>
> Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be an
> Android port as well?
>

You might be interested to know that with the android scripting
environment you can access the android API from emacs.
I've written a little recipe to make phone calls directly from your bbdb
buffer in emacs on android. See here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid


-- 
aleblanc

Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[Stefan Vollmar]

On 08.09.2009, at 16:24, Richard Moreland wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.  We are  
> still working out some of the details, but so far we have it running  
> on the phone in a fairly usable state.  It needs some polish, but it  
> is very nice to see my Org data easily accessible on a mobile device  
> with offline access.  To be clear, we aren't trying to run Emacs on  
> the device.  The goal is to view Org files and agendas as well as  
> capture new notes.
>
> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

EXCELLENT! Looking forward to this one.

Warm regards,
  Stefan
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[Holst Thomas (DS-ET/ECF1)]

Richard Moreland wrote:

> Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
> http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

I am using org-mode for more than a year now and it changed the way I am
working a lot! I also have an iPhone and was looking for a way to work
with my org-files on the iPhone.

I can't watch the movie here at work, but I'll be a beta tester - that's
for shure!!

Thanks a lot to you and Carten for your work! It really is awsome.

Thomas

Re: iPhone app for Org view and capture

[aldrin d'souza]

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2009/9/8 Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to>

> I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.
>

Absolutely lovely. I've been waiting for this for long.

Once we feel the basics are worked out, we will solicit a request for beta
> testers and feedback
>

Please count me in.

thanks,
--
ajd.

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