* Re: org-mode without stars
2011-01-26 16:57 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2011-01-26 19:27 ` brian powell
2011-02-12 1:27 ` Samuel Wales
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: brian powell @ 2011-01-26 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: Bayle Shanks, emacs-orgmode
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The original "outline-mode" in EMACS which predates "org-mode" used stars.
Using stars "*" is the best way to do it; the reasons are many--OrgMode
files are flat text files and this is great too--but keep this in mind
here--think about searches, etc.
PYTHON uses indentation (and thats great); LISP silly/wonderful parens,
etc.--for EMACS use stars! They look great! They are the best thing to use
here:
Stars "*" are also used as the symbol for "regular-expressions"--based on
neurology/neurons/dendrites/trees/outline-trees/etc. and the "Kleene
Closure" (i.e. the mathematician Kleene)--the study of neurology and
regular-expressions and the stars "*" are intertwined--the history dates at
least back to the 1930s--and LISP/lambda calculus/Alonso Church/Kleene--the
1950s.
A star "*" @is@ a "Kleene Closure"--math.
A star "*" is easily recognized as a symbol for a note: From
http://Wiktionary.com: " "*"== "Used at the beginning of a footnote ,
especially if it is the only one on the page, and after a word, phrase, or
sentence that this ..."
"So, why should I care"!? (you might have been thinking)
Well, howsabout this: Say you are searching for a string and/or regular
expression in a flat text file--you wouldn't search for "*"--you would
usually be search for a string (maybe an indentation level of stars "*")
using EMACS--which is by the way the fastest way to find such things --if
you are typing in real-time--emacs will highlight a search as you type
it--this function is very fast--Suggest you try these 2 examples: Cs
blah-search-string "***"--and maybe Mx search-for-regexp "***"---they have
different uses/meanings--when searching in EMACS) since emacs is the fastest
regular expression engine (for 1st-character(s)-recoginition (the engine is
optimized for this) so for this case/this type of search there is @nothing
faster@ (BTW check out QEMACS if you're working with a huge/gigabyte size
files--its fun to edit huge files with QEMACS--written by the same guy that
calculated PI with a desktop computer--to the longest # he also wrote QEMU
(Fabrice Bellard: http://bellard.org) for this type of regular-expression
search (many other engines are faster and use different algorithms--for the
purposes they were built for--and so they should be used then--each regexp
engine seems to have a niche.)
Use EMACS OrgMode and use stars "*", they really are the best for this case;
my brain is overheating thinking of the many good reasons. But, "How do
they look when you print them out!?", etc.; well, I suggest you tailor that
with PERL, thats what I use--I quickly change doc formats to TeX--TeX is the
only thing that @really@ looks pretty!
Please "leave well enough alone"! That said, I hope you do whatever you want
and don't listen to me or anyone else on such matters--EMACS is infinitely
extensible, have fun!
;-)
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bayle,
>
> On 2011-01-22, Bayle Shanks <bshanks3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > get new laptop
> >
> > organize interstellar dust meeting
> > book the meeting room
> > organize LOC
> > Invited speakers
> > - Draine
> > - Tielens
> > - Hollenbach
> > 1st announcement
> >
> > fix the bell in the hall
>
> I indent by spaces by 2 a lot to save typing. c-c - and c-c * will
> convert. They do not handle indentation, but that might be a very
> useful feature (I would use it too).
>
> This does handle indentation. I wrote it a very long time ago for a
> different, 8-space indentation.
>
> (defun alpha-orgify ()
> "quick hack. create org format from my indented outline
> format, which consists of 8-space indentation. operate on the
> region. assume a certain number of stars and odd levels."
> (interactive)
> (let ((b (region-beginning))
> (e (region-end))
> ;;manually mod for now. headline vs. bullet.
> (bulletp nil))
> (loop
> while
> (progn
> (save-excursion
> ;;use (re-)search-forward and replace-match when no query? i'd
> ;;prefer without the pattern (i.e. just ^) but you might be
> ;;re-orgifying an already-orgified region. btw match-string is
> ;;how you get the string.
> (perform-replace "^\\([^*]\\)"
> (if bulletp
> " \\1"
> "*** \\1")
> t ;interactive
> t nil nil nil
> b
> e))
> (save-excursion
> (perform-replace " "
> (if bulletp
> " "
> "**")
> t ;interactive
> t nil nil nil
> b
> e))
> (when bulletp
> (progn
> ;;how to make it greedy?
> (perform-replace "^\\( +\\)\\([^ ]\\)" "\\1- \\2"
> t ;interactive
> t nil nil nil)))))))
>
> Samuel
>
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