The original "outline-mode" in EMACS which predates "org-mode" used stars. Using stars "*" is the best way to do it; the reasons are many--OrgMode files are flat text files and this is great too--but keep this in mind here--think about searches, etc. PYTHON uses indentation (and thats great); LISP silly/wonderful parens, etc.--for EMACS use stars! They look great! They are the best thing to use here: Stars "*" are also used as the symbol for "regular-expressions"--based on neurology/neurons/dendrites/trees/outline-trees/etc. and the "Kleene Closure" (i.e. the mathematician Kleene)--the study of neurology and regular-expressions and the stars "*" are intertwined--the history dates at least back to the 1930s--and LISP/lambda calculus/Alonso Church/Kleene--the 1950s. A star "*" @is@ a "Kleene Closure"--math. A star "*" is easily recognized as a symbol for a note: From http://Wiktionary.com: " "*"== "Used at the beginning of a footnote , especially if it is the only one on the page, and after a word, phrase, or sentence that this ..." "So, why should I care"!? (you might have been thinking) Well, howsabout this: Say you are searching for a string and/or regular expression in a flat text file--you wouldn't search for "*"--you would usually be search for a string (maybe an indentation level of stars "*") using EMACS--which is by the way the fastest way to find such things --if you are typing in real-time--emacs will highlight a search as you type it--this function is very fast--Suggest you try these 2 examples: Cs blah-search-string "***"--and maybe Mx search-for-regexp "***"---they have different uses/meanings--when searching in EMACS) since emacs is the fastest regular expression engine (for 1st-character(s)-recoginition (the engine is optimized for this) so for this case/this type of search there is @nothing faster@ (BTW check out QEMACS if you're working with a huge/gigabyte size files--its fun to edit huge files with QEMACS--written by the same guy that calculated PI with a desktop computer--to the longest # he also wrote QEMU (Fabrice Bellard: http://bellard.org) for this type of regular-expression search (many other engines are faster and use different algorithms--for the purposes they were built for--and so they should be used then--each regexp engine seems to have a niche.) Use EMACS OrgMode and use stars "*", they really are the best for this case; my brain is overheating thinking of the many good reasons. But, "How do they look when you print them out!?", etc.; well, I suggest you tailor that with PERL, thats what I use--I quickly change doc formats to TeX--TeX is the only thing that @really@ looks pretty! Please "leave well enough alone"! That said, I hope you do whatever you want and don't listen to me or anyone else on such matters--EMACS is infinitely extensible, have fun! ;-) On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Samuel Wales wrote: > Hi Bayle, > > On 2011-01-22, Bayle Shanks wrote: > > get new laptop > > > > organize interstellar dust meeting > > book the meeting room > > organize LOC > > Invited speakers > > - Draine > > - Tielens > > - Hollenbach > > 1st announcement > > > > fix the bell in the hall > > I indent by spaces by 2 a lot to save typing. c-c - and c-c * will > convert. They do not handle indentation, but that might be a very > useful feature (I would use it too). > > This does handle indentation. I wrote it a very long time ago for a > different, 8-space indentation. > > (defun alpha-orgify () > "quick hack. create org format from my indented outline > format, which consists of 8-space indentation. operate on the > region. assume a certain number of stars and odd levels." > (interactive) > (let ((b (region-beginning)) > (e (region-end)) > ;;manually mod for now. headline vs. bullet. > (bulletp nil)) > (loop > while > (progn > (save-excursion > ;;use (re-)search-forward and replace-match when no query? i'd > ;;prefer without the pattern (i.e. just ^) but you might be > ;;re-orgifying an already-orgified region. btw match-string is > ;;how you get the string. > (perform-replace "^\\([^*]\\)" > (if bulletp > " \\1" > "*** \\1") > t ;interactive > t nil nil nil > b > e)) > (save-excursion > (perform-replace " " > (if bulletp > " " > "**") > t ;interactive > t nil nil nil > b > e)) > (when bulletp > (progn > ;;how to make it greedy? > (perform-replace "^\\( +\\)\\([^ ]\\)" "\\1- \\2" > t ;interactive > t nil nil nil))))))) > > Samuel > > -- > The Kafka Pandemic: > > http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2010/12/welcome-to-kafka-pandemic-two-forces_9182.html > I support the Whittemore-Peterson Institute (WPI) > === > I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MLV > paper. > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >