Re: list indentation

[cezar <cezar@mixandgo.ro>]

Personally I do like:

- this way of indenting a long line
  that extends to more than one line

So an idea that comes to mind is, how about disabling indentation for
lists and have a special way of editing a list item like so:

- have your list content here up to a point where you press <C-M-TAB>
  and that indents your next line (or pointer)

So pressing just TAB in a list content won't have any effect.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Cezar

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am personally not fond of separators, and we must be sure what
> their purpose is.  As a means of terminating a list for export
> and folding, you can use empty lines when setting the variable
> `org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' discovered by Will.
> Or any text that is no linger indented behind the bullet marker.
>
> But if I understand correctly, this is really about indentation and
> about M-q paragraph wrapping.
>
> I have thought about how to make aragraph wrapping to respect the
> indentation of a line after a plain list item and failed.  I cannot
> figure it out.
>
> For paragraph wrapping we would really need a separator, and then we
> would need to add this separator to the regular expressions in
> `paragraph-start' and `paragraph-separate', obscure pieces of the
> Emacs formatting which do not work really consistent between different
> commands fill-paragraph and fill-region).  EIther that, or I am not
> really able to comprehend how this works.
>
> About indentation, there are other possible conventions one could use.
> Right now, TAB will indent a line under a plain list item to beyond
> the item bullet.  Independent of the current indentation.  So it will
> indent lines with low indentation, and outdent lines with too large
> indentations.
>
> One could have different conventions.  For example, we could do this:
> In the line after a plain list item:
> - when the indentation is 0 or when the line is empty, make TAB indent
>   to under the line before, as if you intended to continue the item.
> - when the line is not empty and already indented, keep that
> indentation.
>
> I am not sure if that would be seen as more consistent and stable, up
> for discussion.
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Feb 10, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Eddward DeVilla wrote:
>
>> On Feb 9, 2008 10:47 PM, William Henney <whenney@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 9, 2008 9:55 PM, Eddward DeVilla <eddward@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In any case, I'm just trying to come up with something  that does
>>>> the
>>>> job but is not an eye sore in the org buffer.  I'm looking for
>>>> something that visually looks like a natural footer or terminator in
>>>> plain text.  (And a footer ought to be able to be preceeded by a
>>>> header.)  I know the significance of the '/' in xml, but visually,
>>>> it
>>>> doesn't look right to my eyes.  Aside from the meaning in xml
>>>> code, it
>>>> does say end-of-list to me.  If anything, it seems to connect the
>>>> preceeding and proceeding text, like this/that.  The dashes draw a
>>>> dividing line.
>>>
>>> How about "-." ?
>>
>> Better.  Still kind of cryptic, but more subtle.  Actually, since
>> that's all that's on the line, it really doesn't matter what it is.
>> Font lock can hide it or gray it out.  It could look like a blank line
>> without the ambiguity.
>>
>> Edd
>>
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