Re: Re: list indentation

[Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>]

Hi Everyone,

I am personally not fond of separators, and we must be sure what
their purpose is.  As a means of terminating a list for export
and folding, you can use empty lines when setting the variable
`org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' discovered by Will.
Or any text that is no linger indented behind the bullet marker.

But if I understand correctly, this is really about indentation and
about M-q paragraph wrapping.

I have thought about how to make aragraph wrapping to respect the
indentation of a line after a plain list item and failed.  I cannot
figure it out.

For paragraph wrapping we would really need a separator, and then we
would need to add this separator to the regular expressions in
`paragraph-start' and `paragraph-separate', obscure pieces of the
Emacs formatting which do not work really consistent between different
commands fill-paragraph and fill-region).  EIther that, or I am not
really able to comprehend how this works.

About indentation, there are other possible conventions one could use.
Right now, TAB will indent a line under a plain list item to beyond
the item bullet.  Independent of the current indentation.  So it will
indent lines with low indentation, and outdent lines with too large
indentations.

One could have different conventions.  For example, we could do this:
In the line after a plain list item:
- when the indentation is 0 or when the line is empty, make TAB indent
   to under the line before, as if you intended to continue the item.
- when the line is not empty and already indented, keep that  
indentation.

I am not sure if that would be seen as more consistent and stable, up
for discussion.

- Carsten

On Feb 10, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Eddward DeVilla wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2008 10:47 PM, William Henney <whenney@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 9, 2008 9:55 PM, Eddward DeVilla <eddward@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In any case, I'm just trying to come up with something  that does  
>>> the
>>> job but is not an eye sore in the org buffer.  I'm looking for
>>> something that visually looks like a natural footer or terminator in
>>> plain text.  (And a footer ought to be able to be preceeded by a
>>> header.)  I know the significance of the '/' in xml, but visually,  
>>> it
>>> doesn't look right to my eyes.  Aside from the meaning in xml  
>>> code, it
>>> does say end-of-list to me.  If anything, it seems to connect the
>>> preceeding and proceeding text, like this/that.  The dashes draw a
>>> dividing line.
>>
>> How about "-." ?
>
> Better.  Still kind of cryptic, but more subtle.  Actually, since
> that's all that's on the line, it really doesn't matter what it is.
> Font lock can hide it or gray it out.  It could look like a blank line
> without the ambiguity.
>
> Edd
>
>
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