Re: Re: list indentation

[Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4287 bytes --]

Are you talking about something like longlines.el?  I am not sure
if you understand what you mean.

- Carsten
On Feb 10, 2008, at 9:00 AM, cezar wrote:

>
> Personally I do like:
>
> - this way of indenting a long line
>  that extends to more than one line
>
> So an idea that comes to mind is, how about disabling indentation for
> lists and have a special way of editing a list item like so:
>
> - have your list content here up to a point where you press <C-M-TAB>
>  and that indents your next line (or pointer)
>
> So pressing just TAB in a list content won't have any effect.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> Cezar
>
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I am personally not fond of separators, and we must be sure what
>> their purpose is.  As a means of terminating a list for export
>> and folding, you can use empty lines when setting the variable
>> `org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' discovered by Will.
>> Or any text that is no linger indented behind the bullet marker.
>>
>> But if I understand correctly, this is really about indentation and
>> about M-q paragraph wrapping.
>>
>> I have thought about how to make aragraph wrapping to respect the
>> indentation of a line after a plain list item and failed.  I cannot
>> figure it out.
>>
>> For paragraph wrapping we would really need a separator, and then we
>> would need to add this separator to the regular expressions in
>> `paragraph-start' and `paragraph-separate', obscure pieces of the
>> Emacs formatting which do not work really consistent between  
>> different
>> commands fill-paragraph and fill-region).  EIther that, or I am not
>> really able to comprehend how this works.
>>
>> About indentation, there are other possible conventions one could  
>> use.
>> Right now, TAB will indent a line under a plain list item to beyond
>> the item bullet.  Independent of the current indentation.  So it will
>> indent lines with low indentation, and outdent lines with too large
>> indentations.
>>
>> One could have different conventions.  For example, we could do this:
>> In the line after a plain list item:
>> - when the indentation is 0 or when the line is empty, make TAB  
>> indent
>>  to under the line before, as if you intended to continue the item.
>> - when the line is not empty and already indented, keep that
>> indentation.
>>
>> I am not sure if that would be seen as more consistent and stable, up
>> for discussion.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Eddward DeVilla wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2008 10:47 PM, William Henney <whenney@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 9, 2008 9:55 PM, Eddward DeVilla <eddward@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In any case, I'm just trying to come up with something  that does
>>>>> the
>>>>> job but is not an eye sore in the org buffer.  I'm looking for
>>>>> something that visually looks like a natural footer or  
>>>>> terminator in
>>>>> plain text.  (And a footer ought to be able to be preceeded by a
>>>>> header.)  I know the significance of the '/' in xml, but visually,
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't look right to my eyes.  Aside from the meaning in xml
>>>>> code, it
>>>>> does say end-of-list to me.  If anything, it seems to connect the
>>>>> preceeding and proceeding text, like this/that.  The dashes draw a
>>>>> dividing line.
>>>>
>>>> How about "-." ?
>>>
>>> Better.  Still kind of cryptic, but more subtle.  Actually, since
>>> that's all that's on the line, it really doesn't matter what it is.
>>> Font lock can hide it or gray it out.  It could look like a blank  
>>> line
>>> without the ambiguity.
>>>
>>> Edd
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 10130 bytes --]

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --]

_______________________________________________
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode