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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some projects
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:20:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fv0yyoi8.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87twpekpxh.fsf@mbork.pl

Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:

> On 2015-10-26, at 00:03, Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> - The only “off the shelf”-capable citation processing library that we
>>   found last time is in Haskell, which introduced some difficulties for
>>   distributing the resulting tool.  I know some projects
>>   (e.g. git-annex) are written in Haskell and distributed as static
>>   binaries for windows/mac/linux/etc.  We’d need to figure out how to do
>>   this, or find another citation processing library in an
>>   easier-to-distribute language.  (I should say, all the work on the
>>   external tool was done by Richard Lawrence; I worked on the exporter
>>   for the citation syntax including the interface with an external
>>   tool.)
>
> This is probably a very naive question, but wouldn't it be possible to
> have a pure Elisp tool?  I understand that lack of manpower may be the
> main problem; are there any others?

Sure, but it’s a lot of work. citeproc-java is 22K lines:

      https://github.com/michel-kraemer/citeproc-java/graphs/contributors

>> - There is a difference between citations as done by latex/bibtex/etc.,
>>   and those done in every other format (handled through CSL).  Assuming
>>   latex users want to keep their native processing rather than
>>   delegating to CSL, we need to solve the myriad small inconsistencies
>>   between these two tools.  I think this is an area where it’s important
>>   to get things right: users of citations generally have exacting
>>   requirements.  “Approximately Chicago-style” or “almost MLA” aren’t
>>   worth anything.
>
> Out of curiosity: what is CSL?

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citation_Style_Language

What is used by e.g. Zotero and Pandoc and mostly everyone who's not using
LaTeX.  Unfortunately, it is not as flexible as biblatex.  E.g. to get
"author (year)" and "(author, year)" I /think/ you need two separate
styles, but I could easily be wrong on this.  This was discussed
extensively earlier.

Rasmus

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-26  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-25 13:08 Some projects Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 14:43 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-25 16:11   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 15:45 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-10-25 16:16   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 16:18   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-25 16:37     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 18:13       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-25 18:24         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 17:57 ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-10-25 18:00   ` Fabrice Popineau
2015-10-25 18:12     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 18:22       ` Eric S Fraga
2015-10-25 19:12         ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-25 19:11       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-25 21:18         ` Anders Johansson
2015-10-25 21:29           ` Anders Johansson
2015-10-25 19:33       ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-10-25 20:00         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 20:17           ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-10-25 20:03         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-25 19:02 ` Rasmus
2015-10-25 19:20   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-26  2:23   ` Matt Price
2015-10-25 20:24 ` Samuel Wales
2015-10-25 20:25   ` Samuel Wales
2015-10-25 23:03 ` Aaron Ecay
2015-10-26  8:13   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-26  9:20     ` Rasmus [this message]
2015-10-26 16:39   ` Richard Lawrence
2015-10-26 18:17     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-26 22:23       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-10-27  0:03         ` Matt Price
2015-10-27 12:01     ` Aaron Ecay
2015-10-27 12:34       ` Rasmus
2015-10-27 13:03         ` Aaron Ecay
2015-10-27 13:51           ` Rasmus
2015-10-28  1:05             ` Matt Price
2015-10-28  3:28               ` Aldric Giacomoni
2015-10-28  3:31               ` Matt Lundin
2015-10-28 14:36                 ` Matt Price
2015-10-28 15:31                   ` Matt Price
2015-10-28  1:05           ` Matt Price
2015-10-27 13:19         ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-27 13:42           ` Rasmus
2015-10-27 14:49             ` Ista Zahn
2015-10-27 15:09               ` Rasmus Pank Roulund
2015-10-27 15:25                 ` Ista Zahn
2015-10-27 15:36                 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-10-28  2:52                 ` Matt Lundin
2015-10-27 13:22         ` Richard Lawrence
2015-10-28  1:57   ` Matt Lundin
2015-10-28  8:56     ` Rasmus
2015-10-28  9:07       ` Rasmus
2015-10-26 17:20 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-10-27  8:30   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-27 18:53     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-10-27 19:23       ` Rasmus
2015-10-27 20:28         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-10-27 20:01       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-27 21:53       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-26 18:20 ` Kaushal Modi

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