org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Erik Hetzner]

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Hi all,

I would like to use a capture template to capture calendar entries &
file them to a date tree organized calendar.org file.

Specifically, what I want to happen is this: the template prompts me
for a date, then prompts me for headline. The date should be used for
the datetree & used as a datestamp in the headline.

I have tried the following template:

  (setq org-capture-templates
        '(("c" "Calendar" entry (file+datetree+prompt "~/s/notes/calendar.org")
           "* %^{What?}\n%t\n%?")))

What happens with this is that I get prompted for a date, which is
used to file the entry in the datetree, but the date in the headline
is always today’s date.

If I use `k c` in the agenda (org-agenda-action) this works as
expected, with no prompting for a date, the entry filed properly in
the datetree, and the date in the headline set properly.

Any thoughts on how to fix this?

best, Erik

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Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Erik Hetzner]

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At Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:04:33 -0800,
Erik Hetzner wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to use a capture template to capture calendar entries &
> file them to a date tree organized calendar.org file.

Sorry, this is with org-mode 7.7, emacs 23.2.1, Ubuntu 11.04.

best, Erik

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Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Carsten Dominik]

On 6.12.2011, at 07:04, Erik Hetzner wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to use a capture template to capture calendar entries &
> file them to a date tree organized calendar.org file.
> 
> Specifically, what I want to happen is this: the template prompts me
> for a date, then prompts me for headline. The date should be used for
> the datetree & used as a datestamp in the headline.
> 
> I have tried the following template:
> 
>  (setq org-capture-templates
>        '(("c" "Calendar" entry (file+datetree+prompt "~/s/notes/calendar.org")
>           "* %^{What?}\n%t\n%?")))
> 
> What happens with this is that I get prompted for a date, which is
> used to file the entry in the datetree, but the date in the headline
> is always today’s date.

I tried to reproduce this.  When I do this and enter the date two
days into the future (8 December), I get

* 2011
** 2011-12 Dezember
*** 2011-12-08 Donnerstag
**** Test
     <2011-12-06 Di>

So the headline uses in fact the date that was entered at the prompt,
only the %t is replaced by the current date.  I would think this
all works as expected.  Maybe I am missing something?

I see that when I do "k c" from the agenda, then indeed also the %t
is replaced with the cursor date.  So indeed, this is a bit
inconsistent.  What would be the right behavior?

- Carsten



> 
> If I use `k c` in the agenda (org-agenda-action) this works as
> expected, with no prompting for a date, the entry filed properly in
> the datetree, and the date in the headline set properly.
> 
> Any thoughts on how to fix this?
> 
> best, Erik
> Sent from my free software system <http://fsf.org/>.

Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Erik Hetzner]

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At Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:43:34 +0100,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6.12.2011, at 07:04, Erik Hetzner wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I would like to use a capture template to capture calendar entries &
> > file them to a date tree organized calendar.org file.
>
> […]
>
> I tried to reproduce this.  When I do this and enter the date two
> days into the future (8 December), I get
> 
> * 2011
> ** 2011-12 Dezember
> *** 2011-12-08 Donnerstag
> **** Test
>      <2011-12-06 Di>
> 
> So the headline uses in fact the date that was entered at the prompt,
> only the %t is replaced by the current date.  I would think this
> all works as expected.  Maybe I am missing something?
> 
> I see that when I do "k c" from the agenda, then indeed also the %t
> is replaced with the cursor date.  So indeed, this is a bit
> inconsistent.  What would be the right behavior?

Hi Carsten,

Maybe it does work as expected (although it should probably be
consistent, as you say). What I am looking for is some way to get the
date I was prompted for to use in the timestamp, so I get:

* 2011
** 2011-12 December
*** 2011-12-08 Thursday
**** Test
     <2011-12-08 Thursday>

the idea being that I am entering a scheduled event.

I can’t figure a template replacement string (%-something) to make
this work.

Thanks for your help!

best, Erik

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Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Erik,

if yout get the latest git version, this is how it is working now.
I agree that it is more consistent this way.

- Carsten

On 6.12.2011, at 09:23, Erik Hetzner wrote:

> At Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:43:34 +0100,
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 6.12.2011, at 07:04, Erik Hetzner wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I would like to use a capture template to capture calendar entries &
>>> file them to a date tree organized calendar.org file.
>> 
>> […]
>> 
>> I tried to reproduce this.  When I do this and enter the date two
>> days into the future (8 December), I get
>> 
>> * 2011
>> ** 2011-12 Dezember
>> *** 2011-12-08 Donnerstag
>> **** Test
>>     <2011-12-06 Di>
>> 
>> So the headline uses in fact the date that was entered at the prompt,
>> only the %t is replaced by the current date.  I would think this
>> all works as expected.  Maybe I am missing something?
>> 
>> I see that when I do "k c" from the agenda, then indeed also the %t
>> is replaced with the cursor date.  So indeed, this is a bit
>> inconsistent.  What would be the right behavior?
> 
> Hi Carsten,
> 
> Maybe it does work as expected (although it should probably be
> consistent, as you say). What I am looking for is some way to get the
> date I was prompted for to use in the timestamp, so I get:
> 
> * 2011
> ** 2011-12 December
> *** 2011-12-08 Thursday
> **** Test
>     <2011-12-08 Thursday>
> 
> the idea being that I am entering a scheduled event.
> 
> I can’t figure a template replacement string (%-something) to make
> this work.
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> best, Erik
> Sent from my free software system <http://fsf.org/>.

Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Erik Hetzner]

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At Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:26:03 +0100,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> if yout get the latest git version, this is how it is working now.
> I agree that it is more consistent this way.

Thanks, Carsten! I haven’t upgraded, but I copied the diff into my
org-capture.el, and it works great.

best, Erik

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Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Erik Hetzner]

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At Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:26:03 +0100,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> if yout get the latest git version, this is how it is working now.
> I agree that it is more consistent this way.

Hi Carten,

Thanks again for this fix.

I have noticed that using k c ... (where ... is a capture template
utilizing file+datetree+prompt) in the agenda now prompts for a
date. Is this intended behavior?

best, Erik

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Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Carsten Dominik]

On 11.12.2011, at 20:45, Erik Hetzner wrote:

> At Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:26:03 +0100,
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Erik,
>> 
>> if yout get the latest git version, this is how it is working now.
>> I agree that it is more consistent this way.
> 
> Hi Carten,
> 
> Thanks again for this fix.
> 
> I have noticed that using k c ... (where ... is a capture template
> utilizing file+datetree+prompt) in the agenda now prompts for a
> date. Is this intended behavior?

No, it is not, this is a bug.  Grrr.

I'll take a look as soon as I can.

- Carsten

> 
> best, Erik
> Sent from my free software system <http://fsf.org/>.

Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Bastien]

Hi Erik,

Erik Hetzner <egh@e6h.org> writes:

> Thanks again for this fix.
>
> I have noticed that using k c ... (where ... is a capture template
> utilizing file+datetree+prompt) in the agenda now prompts for a
> date. Is this intended behavior?

I can't reproduce this -- I used the capture setting you mentioned
earlier in this thread.  Can you provide a minimal test/config file 
and the steps to reproduce with latest Org from git?

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Erik Hetzner]

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At Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:18:34 +0100,
Bastien wrote:
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> Erik Hetzner <egh@e6h.org> writes:
> 
> > Thanks again for this fix.
> >
> > I have noticed that using k c ... (where ... is a capture template
> > utilizing file+datetree+prompt) in the agenda now prompts for a
> > date. Is this intended behavior?
> 
> I can't reproduce this -- I used the capture setting you mentioned
> earlier in this thread.  Can you provide a minimal test/config file 
> and the steps to reproduce with latest Org from git?

Hi Bastien,

My apologies, you are correct. I made two errors:

1. My calendar capture template actually looked like this:

  ("c" "Calendar" entry (file+datetree+prompt "~/s/notes/calendar.org" "Inbox")
       "* %^{What?}\n%t\n%?")

The “Inbox” part was accidentally copied from another template. This
seems to have caused the problem.

2. My other capture template that used file+datetree+prompt that
experienced this behavior actually had a %^t in the template. Whoops!

Thank you so much for looking into this.

best, Erik

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Re: org-capture-templates file+datetree+prompt question

[Bastien]

Hi Erik,

Erik Hetzner <egh@e6h.org> writes:

> My apologies, you are correct. I made two errors:

thanks for confirming and for giving details about what
went wrong in your config!  It's important for the list's 
archives.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien