* Abbrevs and Org Tables @ 2008-04-20 9:44 Chris Randle 2008-04-20 14:09 ` Jose Robins 2008-04-22 3:32 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Chris Randle @ 2008-04-20 9:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, "hnbc" to exapand to "how now brown cow", and then type "hnbc[space]" inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays "stuck" where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? -- Chris Randle ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Abbrevs and Org Tables 2008-04-20 9:44 Abbrevs and Org Tables Chris Randle @ 2008-04-20 14:09 ` Jose Robins 2008-04-21 13:15 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-04-22 3:32 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Jose Robins @ 2008-04-20 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris Randle; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1844 bytes --] On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width problems within tables. I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis markers defined so... '(org-emphasis-alist (quote (("*" bold "<b>" "</b>") ("/" italic "<i>" "</i>") ("_" underline "<u>" "</u>") ("=" org-code "<code>" "</code>" verbatim) ("~" org-verbatim "" "" verbatim) ("+" (:strike-through t) "<del>" "</del>") ("&" font-lock-keyword-face "" "") ("#" j-green-face "" "") ("^" j-highlight-face "" "")))) '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color green etc. When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special characters would disappear and the correct formatting would appear on the word, however the right cell vertical divider character would get pulled in by 1 character. <tab> does not resize the table cell properly. I need to manually insert a space to move the divider to the right and then everything would work as expected. Just a minor annoyance.. Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... Jose Chris Randle wrote: > Hi > > I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, "hnbc" to exapand to "how now brown > cow", and then type "hnbc[space]" inside an org table cell. After it has > expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell > width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell > divider - it stays "stuck" where it was after the expansion. > > It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the > abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the > beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. > > C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell > divider and backspace one char and tab. > > Any other workarounds or suggestions? > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2340 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Abbrevs and Org Tables 2008-04-20 14:09 ` Jose Robins @ 2008-04-21 13:15 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-04-21 14:09 ` Jose Robins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-04-21 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jose Robins; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2278 bytes --] On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Jose Robins wrote: > On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width > problems within tables. > I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis > markers defined so... > > '(org-emphasis-alist (quote (("*" bold "<b>" "</b>") ("/" italic > "<i>" "</i>") ("_" underline "<u>" "</u>") ("=" org-code "<code>" "</ > code>" verbatim) ("~" org-verbatim "" "" verbatim) ("+" (:strike- > through t) "<del>" "</del>") ("&" font-lock-keyword-face "" "") ("#" > j-green-face "" "") ("^" j-highlight-face "" "")))) > > '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) > > where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color > green etc. > > When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special > characters would disappear and the correct formatting would appear > on the word, however the right cell vertical divider character would > get pulled in by 1 character. <tab> does not resize the table cell > properly. I need to manually insert a space to move the divider to > the right and then everything would work as expected. Just a minor > annoyance.. > > Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... Hi Jose, does C-c C-c fix the alignment, or not? - Carsten > > > Jose > > Chris Randle wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, "hnbc" to exapand to "how now brown >> cow", and then type "hnbc[space]" inside an org table cell. After >> it has >> expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the >> cell >> width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell >> divider - it stays "stuck" where it was after the expansion. >> >> It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before >> the >> abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the >> beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. >> >> C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing >> cell >> divider and backspace one char and tab. >> >> Any other workarounds or suggestions? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3018 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Abbrevs and Org Tables 2008-04-21 13:15 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-04-21 14:09 ` Jose Robins 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Jose Robins @ 2008-04-21 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3593 bytes --] Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Jose Robins wrote: > >> On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width >> problems within tables. >> I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis >> markers defined so... >> >> '(org-emphasis-alist (quote (("*" bold "<b>" "</b>") ("/" italic >> "<i>" "</i>") ("_" underline "<u>" "</u>") ("=" org-code "<code>" >> "</code>" verbatim) ("~" org-verbatim "" "" verbatim) ("+" >> (:strike-through t) "<del>" "</del>") ("&" font-lock-keyword-face "" >> "") ("#" j-green-face "" "") ("^" j-highlight-face "" "")))) >> >> '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) >> >> where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color >> green etc. >> >> When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special characters >> would disappear and the correct formatting would appear on the word, >> however the right cell vertical divider character would get pulled in >> by 1 character. <tab> does not resize the table cell properly. I need >> to manually insert a space to move the divider to the right and then >> everything would work as expected. Just a minor annoyance.. >> >> Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... > > Hi Jose, > > does C-c C-c fix the alignment, or not? > > - Carsten Hi Carsten, Actually, C-c C-c does work while <tab> does not work reliably. I was just trying out different emphasis markers. Bold was what was giving me problem today (* regexp) - <TAB> didn't work while C-c C-c worked. My customized ones seemed to work fine today. However I do distinctly remember them not working properly earlier. Let me know if C-c C-c is the "recommended" method for reformatting tables... I've also found my custom emphasis markers not working reliably on headlines. Sometimes, they will revert back to not being emphasized depending on the following headline's contents. Not sure if using emphasis markers on headlines is discouraged or not. If you like, I can document this better and send you more details on the type of actions that cause the formatting to break. I've always been known to indulge in "corner" cases and using things on the bleeding edge, so things like this always happen to me :) Thanks, Jose > >> >> >> Jose >> >> Chris Randle wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, "hnbc" to exapand to "how now brown >>> cow", and then type "hnbc[space]" inside an org table cell. After it >>> has >>> expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell >>> width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell >>> divider - it stays "stuck" where it was after the expansion. >>> >>> It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the >>> abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the >>> beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. >>> >>> C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell >>> divider and backspace one char and tab. >>> >>> Any other workarounds or suggestions? >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4858 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Abbrevs and Org Tables 2008-04-20 9:44 Abbrevs and Org Tables Chris Randle 2008-04-20 14:09 ` Jose Robins @ 2008-04-22 3:32 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-04-22 3:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris Randle, Jose Robins; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Apr 20, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Chris Randle wrote: > Hi > > I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, "hnbc" to exapand to "how now brown > cow", and then type "hnbc[space]" inside an org table cell. After it > has > expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the > cell > width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell > divider - it stays "stuck" where it was after the expansion. > > It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the > abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the > beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. > > C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell > divider and backspace one char and tab. > > Any other workarounds or suggestions? Hi Chris, Jose, maybe it is useful to explain a bit how the table editor works. Each time you press a character, Org checks if you are doing this inside a table. If yes, Org is checking if it can insert the character into the current field., it it fits in there. If yes it does so. If not, it raises a flag that the next TAB should trigger a re-alignment of the table. Org goes through all this to avoid having the re-align the table always, each time you press TAB, because for large tables this can lead to a significant slowdown. Now, the two things mentioned in this thread, abbrev expansion and hiding of emphasis markers, happen outside the control of normal editing. Both happen by some hook, and the corresponding change in field width is not noticed by Org. It is not easy to fix this without endangering the mechanism that suppresses constant table alignment. It seems to me that these two cases are rare enough that it is not too much to ask to quickly fix things with C-c C-c. I this really bothers you, take a look at the variable `org-enable- table-editor'. The default for this variable is `optimized', which leads to the discussed behavior. If you set it to t, each TAB will re- align the table. HTH - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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