Re: pstricks in org-mode?

[Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>]

On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Johan Ekh wrote:

> preview-latex in AucTeX works really well I think. It would be nice  
> to use it in org-mode.
> I'm not a lisp programmer. I would be happy to contribute to org- 
> mode but I need support.
> Could someone point me in the right direction to start developing  
> such a patch?
>
> Or, if someone more skilled than me would like to pick it up and  
> just do it, that would
> be fine with me!

I think you could start by investigating if it would be possible
to use preview-LaTeX in a file like an Org-mode file.  For this you  
probably
need to ask on the AUCTeX mailing lists.

- Carsten

>
> //Johan
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> On Oct 5, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:
>
>
> Even graphics made in tikz, that does not use postscript commands,  
> do not appear
> in DVI viewers. I haven't used the preview-latex with graphics in  
> AucTeX, but if
> it is able to view graphics made with pstricks, as it appears to be  
> the case,
> then maybe it is better to first investigate how preview-latex is  
> able to do
> this before searching for options to pass to dvipng in org-mode.
>
> IMHO it would be even better if it was possible to use the original
> preview-latex from AucTeX instead of reinventing the wheel.
>
> :-)  I'd be happy to accept a patch!
>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
> Darlan
>
>
> PS: Please, when answering E-Mails do not forget to also CC to the  
> the org
> mailing list.
>
>
>
> At Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:28:37 +0200,
> Johan Ekh wrote:
>
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> Thanks for sharing with me! Your setup seems to give a good  
> workflow. Before
> starting to use org-mode I worked with my
> graphics in emacs using the preview facility in AucTeX. Thus I could  
> develop
> my picture and easily update the
> preview to see the effect of my last edit.
>
> Since starting to use org-mode I find that I have it open all the  
> time and
> would like to include it as much as possible
> in my work flow. Many of my pictures share some content and it would  
> be nice
> to develop some "templates" that
> I can start with when I do my pictures. Pstricks is postscript and  
> usually
> do not display in dvi viewers. This is
> probably why dvipng doesn't work.
>
> Is there any way I can manipulate org-modes route to a png preview  
> picture?
>
> Best regards,
> Johan
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
> From the documentation it seems that org-mode uses dvipng.
> [[info:org:LaTeX%20fragments][info:org:LaTeX fragments]]
> But I don't know how it behaves with pstricks.
>
> I usually create the graphics in a separated file when I'm working  
> with
> latex. It's a complete latex file with the necessary preamble that  
> will be
> later turned into comments when I'm finished and want to actually  
> include
> the
> graphic in my document. (using \input{graphic.tex})
>
> When I'm working on it, Emacs occupies half of my screen (or more) and
> evince
> occupies the other half. Whenever I compile the document (using  
> pdflatex
> since I
> use tikz to draw graphics) the pdf is automatically reloaded by  
> evince.
> Since I
> don't rely on the preview-latex for developing the graphics I don't  
> know if
> it
> works with tikz. I guess I'll give it a try.
>
> ...
>
> I tried with the simple example
> ,----
> | \begin{tikzpicture}
> | \draw (0,0) -- (1,1);
> | \end{tikzpicture}
> `----
> and it does not work. Only a little square is show in the Emacs  
> buffer.
> Well,
> this is expected since the package tikz is not included in the  
> temporary
> .tex
> file (and neither is pstricks as I could see).
>
> After included the usepackage{tikz} in org-format-latex-header the  
> preview
> is
> "created". However nothing is show, since the graphic generated by  
> tikz
> (and
> pstricks) is not present at the DVI stage.
>
> This seems to be a limitation of dvipng and not org-mode.
>
> Darlan
>
>
> At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:53:54 +0200,
> Johan Ekh wrote:
>
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> But is pdflatex also used for rendering the previews in emacs? The  
> most
> convenient thing for me would
> be to see the preview while I am developing the picture and then as a
> last
> step export it to my latex document.
>
> Do you this is possible somehow?
>
> Best regards,
> Johan
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <
> darcamo@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
> Remember that because pstricks use postscript commands it is necessary
> to
> take
> the long route in latex (latex->DVI->PS->PDF) instead of just using
> pdflatex. Therefore, if you put some pstricks code in the org-file and
> export to
> PDF to see the result then this is the reason, since the exporter  
> seems
> to
> use
> pdflatex to process the generated .tex file (I'm assuming this,  
> since I
> don't
> see any DVI or PS file created by the exporter).
>
> Best,
> Darlan
>
> At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:33 +0200,
> Johan Ekh wrote:
>
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> It seems that I can use any latex package that I want except for the
> pstricks ones.
> No picture is produced. No error message either. I load the same
> packages
> and use the same
> pstricks code that I have in a regular latex document (on the same
> computer)
> and
> it works in that document.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> //Johan
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Johan Ekh <ekh.johan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, I'll try it!
> /Johan
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Carsten Dominik <
> carsten.dominik@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Johan Ekh wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm using org-mode to write LaTeX snippets that I later (usually)
> transfer into a separate latex document.
> Can I also write and preview pstricks code in org-mode?
>
> Also, can I do "usepackage(xxx)" someway do use LaTeX extensions?
>
>
> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{pstricks}
>
> or something along those lines.
>
> HTH
>
> - Carsten
>
>
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