Re: pstricks in org-mode?

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pstricks in org-mode?
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:57:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B7F68D18-40B2-4904-942F-258B6CEB7710@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4aca2cf4.04c2f10a.573f.01b6@mx.google.com>

On Oct 5, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:

>
> Even graphics made in tikz, that does not use postscript commands,  
> do not appear
> in DVI viewers. I haven't used the preview-latex with graphics in  
> AucTeX, but if
> it is able to view graphics made with pstricks, as it appears to be  
> the case,
> then maybe it is better to first investigate how preview-latex is  
> able to do
> this before searching for options to pass to dvipng in org-mode.
>
> IMHO it would be even better if it was possible to use the original
> preview-latex from AucTeX instead of reinventing the wheel.

:-)  I'd be happy to accept a patch!

- Carsten

>
> Darlan
>
>
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>
> At Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:28:37 +0200,
> Johan Ekh wrote:
>>
>> [1  <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
>> Thanks for sharing with me! Your setup seems to give a good  
>> workflow. Before
>> starting to use org-mode I worked with my
>> graphics in emacs using the preview facility in AucTeX. Thus I  
>> could develop
>> my picture and easily update the
>> preview to see the effect of my last edit.
>>
>> Since starting to use org-mode I find that I have it open all the  
>> time and
>> would like to include it as much as possible
>> in my work flow. Many of my pictures share some content and it  
>> would be nice
>> to develop some "templates" that
>> I can start with when I do my pictures. Pstricks is postscript and  
>> usually
>> do not display in dvi viewers. This is
>> probably why dvipng doesn't work.
>>
>> Is there any way I can manipulate org-modes route to a png preview  
>> picture?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Johan
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> From the documentation it seems that org-mode uses dvipng.
>>> [[info:org:LaTeX%20fragments][info:org:LaTeX fragments]]
>>> But I don't know how it behaves with pstricks.
>>>
>>> I usually create the graphics in a separated file when I'm working  
>>> with
>>> latex. It's a complete latex file with the necessary preamble that  
>>> will be
>>> later turned into comments when I'm finished and want to actually  
>>> include
>>> the
>>> graphic in my document. (using \input{graphic.tex})
>>>
>>> When I'm working on it, Emacs occupies half of my screen (or more)  
>>> and
>>> evince
>>> occupies the other half. Whenever I compile the document (using  
>>> pdflatex
>>> since I
>>> use tikz to draw graphics) the pdf is automatically reloaded by  
>>> evince.
>>> Since I
>>> don't rely on the preview-latex for developing the graphics I  
>>> don't know if
>>> it
>>> works with tikz. I guess I'll give it a try.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I tried with the simple example
>>> ,----
>>> | \begin{tikzpicture}
>>> | \draw (0,0) -- (1,1);
>>> | \end{tikzpicture}
>>> `----
>>> and it does not work. Only a little square is show in the Emacs  
>>> buffer.
>>> Well,
>>> this is expected since the package tikz is not included in the  
>>> temporary
>>> .tex
>>> file (and neither is pstricks as I could see).
>>>
>>> After included the usepackage{tikz} in org-format-latex-header the  
>>> preview
>>> is
>>> "created". However nothing is show, since the graphic generated by  
>>> tikz
>>> (and
>>> pstricks) is not present at the DVI stage.
>>>
>>> This seems to be a limitation of dvipng and not org-mode.
>>>
>>> Darlan
>>>
>>>
>>> At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:53:54 +0200,
>>> Johan Ekh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [1.1  <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
>>>> But is pdflatex also used for rendering the previews in emacs?  
>>>> The most
>>>> convenient thing for me would
>>>> be to see the preview while I am developing the picture and then  
>>>> as a
>>> last
>>>> step export it to my latex document.
>>>>
>>>> Do you this is possible somehow?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Johan
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <
>>> darcamo@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that because pstricks use postscript commands it is  
>>>>> necessary
>>> to
>>>>> take
>>>>> the long route in latex (latex->DVI->PS->PDF) instead of just  
>>>>> using
>>>>> pdflatex. Therefore, if you put some pstricks code in the org- 
>>>>> file and
>>>>> export to
>>>>> PDF to see the result then this is the reason, since the  
>>>>> exporter seems
>>> to
>>>>> use
>>>>> pdflatex to process the generated .tex file (I'm assuming this,  
>>>>> since I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> see any DVI or PS file created by the exporter).
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Darlan
>>>>>
>>>>> At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:33 +0200,
>>>>> Johan Ekh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1  <multipart/alternative (7bit)>]
>>>>>> [1.1  <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
>>>>>> It seems that I can use any latex package that I want except  
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> pstricks ones.
>>>>>> No picture is produced. No error message either. I load the same
>>> packages
>>>>>> and use the same
>>>>>> pstricks code that I have in a regular latex document (on the  
>>>>>> same
>>>>> computer)
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> it works in that document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //Johan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Johan Ekh <ekh.johan@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, I'll try it!
>>>>>>> /Johan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Carsten Dominik <
>>>>> carsten.dominik@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Johan Ekh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> I'm using org-mode to write LaTeX snippets that I later  
>>>>>>>>> (usually)
>>>>>>>>> transfer into a separate latex document.
>>>>>>>>> Can I also write and preview pstricks code in org-mode?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, can I do "usepackage(xxx)" someway do use LaTeX  
>>>>>>>>> extensions?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{pstricks}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or something along those lines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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