Re: pstricks in org-mode?

From: Johan Ekh <ekh.johan@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pstricks in org-mode?
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:02:52 +0200	[thread overview]
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No luck! I did not manage to create an interest in the AucTeX mailing list
for using AucTeX preview-latex in org-mode.
Does anyone have an idea how to proceed with this?

I really think that it would be a good feature to be able to work with
pstricks code in org-mode. I'm I the only one
to think that way?

Best regards,
Johan

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Johan Ekh <ekh.johan@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK!
> I'll report back.
> /Johan
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Carsten Dominik <
> carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Johan Ekh wrote:
>>
>>  preview-latex in AucTeX works really well I think. It would be nice to
>>> use it in org-mode.
>>> I'm not a lisp programmer. I would be happy to contribute to org-mode but
>>> I need support.
>>> Could someone point me in the right direction to start developing such a
>>> patch?
>>>
>>> Or, if someone more skilled than me would like to pick it up and just do
>>> it, that would
>>> be fine with me!
>>>
>>
>> I think you could start by investigating if it would be possible
>> to use preview-LaTeX in a file like an Org-mode file.  For this you
>> probably
>> need to ask on the AUCTeX mailing lists.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>
>>> //Johan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Carsten Dominik <
>>> carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Even graphics made in tikz, that does not use postscript commands, do not
>>> appear
>>> in DVI viewers. I haven't used the preview-latex with graphics in AucTeX,
>>> but if
>>> it is able to view graphics made with pstricks, as it appears to be the
>>> case,
>>> then maybe it is better to first investigate how preview-latex is able to
>>> do
>>> this before searching for options to pass to dvipng in org-mode.
>>>
>>> IMHO it would be even better if it was possible to use the original
>>> preview-latex from AucTeX instead of reinventing the wheel.
>>>
>>> :-)  I'd be happy to accept a patch!
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Darlan
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: Please, when answering E-Mails do not forget to also CC to the the
>>> org
>>> mailing list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:28:37 +0200,
>>> Johan Ekh wrote:
>>>
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>>> Thanks for sharing with me! Your setup seems to give a good workflow.
>>> Before
>>> starting to use org-mode I worked with my
>>> graphics in emacs using the preview facility in AucTeX. Thus I could
>>> develop
>>> my picture and easily update the
>>> preview to see the effect of my last edit.
>>>
>>> Since starting to use org-mode I find that I have it open all the time
>>> and
>>> would like to include it as much as possible
>>> in my work flow. Many of my pictures share some content and it would be
>>> nice
>>> to develop some "templates" that
>>> I can start with when I do my pictures. Pstricks is postscript and
>>> usually
>>> do not display in dvi viewers. This is
>>> probably why dvipng doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Is there any way I can manipulate org-modes route to a png preview
>>> picture?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Johan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <
>>> darcamo@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From the documentation it seems that org-mode uses dvipng.
>>> [[info:org:LaTeX%20fragments][info:org:LaTeX fragments]]
>>> But I don't know how it behaves with pstricks.
>>>
>>> I usually create the graphics in a separated file when I'm working with
>>> latex. It's a complete latex file with the necessary preamble that will
>>> be
>>> later turned into comments when I'm finished and want to actually include
>>> the
>>> graphic in my document. (using \input{graphic.tex})
>>>
>>> When I'm working on it, Emacs occupies half of my screen (or more) and
>>> evince
>>> occupies the other half. Whenever I compile the document (using pdflatex
>>> since I
>>> use tikz to draw graphics) the pdf is automatically reloaded by evince.
>>> Since I
>>> don't rely on the preview-latex for developing the graphics I don't know
>>> if
>>> it
>>> works with tikz. I guess I'll give it a try.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I tried with the simple example
>>> ,----
>>> | \begin{tikzpicture}
>>> | \draw (0,0) -- (1,1);
>>> | \end{tikzpicture}
>>> `----
>>> and it does not work. Only a little square is show in the Emacs buffer.
>>> Well,
>>> this is expected since the package tikz is not included in the temporary
>>> .tex
>>> file (and neither is pstricks as I could see).
>>>
>>> After included the usepackage{tikz} in org-format-latex-header the
>>> preview
>>> is
>>> "created". However nothing is show, since the graphic generated by tikz
>>> (and
>>> pstricks) is not present at the DVI stage.
>>>
>>> This seems to be a limitation of dvipng and not org-mode.
>>>
>>> Darlan
>>>
>>>
>>> At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:53:54 +0200,
>>> Johan Ekh wrote:
>>>
>>> [1.1  <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
>>> But is pdflatex also used for rendering the previews in emacs? The most
>>> convenient thing for me would
>>> be to see the preview while I am developing the picture and then as a
>>> last
>>> step export it to my latex document.
>>>
>>> Do you this is possible somehow?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Johan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <
>>> darcamo@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Remember that because pstricks use postscript commands it is necessary
>>> to
>>> take
>>> the long route in latex (latex->DVI->PS->PDF) instead of just using
>>> pdflatex. Therefore, if you put some pstricks code in the org-file and
>>> export to
>>> PDF to see the result then this is the reason, since the exporter seems
>>> to
>>> use
>>> pdflatex to process the generated .tex file (I'm assuming this, since I
>>> don't
>>> see any DVI or PS file created by the exporter).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Darlan
>>>
>>> At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:33 +0200,
>>> Johan Ekh wrote:
>>>
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>>> It seems that I can use any latex package that I want except for the
>>> pstricks ones.
>>> No picture is produced. No error message either. I load the same
>>> packages
>>> and use the same
>>> pstricks code that I have in a regular latex document (on the same
>>> computer)
>>> and
>>> it works in that document.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> //Johan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Johan Ekh <ekh.johan@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, I'll try it!
>>> /Johan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Carsten Dominik <
>>> carsten.dominik@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Johan Ekh wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm using org-mode to write LaTeX snippets that I later (usually)
>>> transfer into a separate latex document.
>>> Can I also write and preview pstricks code in org-mode?
>>>
>>> Also, can I do "usepackage(xxx)" someway do use LaTeX extensions?
>>>
>>>
>>> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{pstricks}
>>>
>>> or something along those lines.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>
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