Re: pstricks in org-mode?

From: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com>
To: Johan Ekh <ekh.johan@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pstricks in org-mode?
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:29:19 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4aca2cf4.04c2f10a.573f.01b6@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <417457b50910030128s64c8c6ecu2bcb55b1a5f27bf1@mail.gmail.com>

Even graphics made in tikz, that does not use postscript commands, do not appear
in DVI viewers. I haven't used the preview-latex with graphics in AucTeX, but if
it is able to view graphics made with pstricks, as it appears to be the case,
then maybe it is better to first investigate how preview-latex is able to do
this before searching for options to pass to dvipng in org-mode.

IMHO it would be even better if it was possible to use the original
preview-latex from AucTeX instead of reinventing the wheel.

Darlan

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At Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:28:37 +0200,
Johan Ekh wrote:
> 
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> Thanks for sharing with me! Your setup seems to give a good workflow. Before
> starting to use org-mode I worked with my
> graphics in emacs using the preview facility in AucTeX. Thus I could develop
> my picture and easily update the
> preview to see the effect of my last edit.
> 
> Since starting to use org-mode I find that I have it open all the time and
> would like to include it as much as possible
> in my work flow. Many of my pictures share some content and it would be nice
> to develop some "templates" that
> I can start with when I do my pictures. Pstricks is postscript and usually
> do not display in dvi viewers. This is
> probably why dvipng doesn't work.
> 
> Is there any way I can manipulate org-modes route to a png preview picture?
> 
> Best regards,
> Johan
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> 
> >
> > From the documentation it seems that org-mode uses dvipng.
> > [[info:org:LaTeX%20fragments][info:org:LaTeX fragments]]
> > But I don't know how it behaves with pstricks.
> >
> > I usually create the graphics in a separated file when I'm working with
> > latex. It's a complete latex file with the necessary preamble that will be
> > later turned into comments when I'm finished and want to actually include
> > the
> > graphic in my document. (using \input{graphic.tex})
> >
> > When I'm working on it, Emacs occupies half of my screen (or more) and
> > evince
> > occupies the other half. Whenever I compile the document (using pdflatex
> > since I
> > use tikz to draw graphics) the pdf is automatically reloaded by evince.
> > Since I
> > don't rely on the preview-latex for developing the graphics I don't know if
> > it
> > works with tikz. I guess I'll give it a try.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > I tried with the simple example
> > ,----
> > | \begin{tikzpicture}
> > | \draw (0,0) -- (1,1);
> > | \end{tikzpicture}
> > `----
> > and it does not work. Only a little square is show in the Emacs buffer.
> > Well,
> > this is expected since the package tikz is not included in the temporary
> > .tex
> > file (and neither is pstricks as I could see).
> >
> > After included the usepackage{tikz} in org-format-latex-header the preview
> > is
> > "created". However nothing is show, since the graphic generated by tikz
> > (and
> > pstricks) is not present at the DVI stage.
> >
> > This seems to be a limitation of dvipng and not org-mode.
> >
> > Darlan
> >
> >
> > At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:53:54 +0200,
> > Johan Ekh wrote:
> > >
> > > [1.1  <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
> > > But is pdflatex also used for rendering the previews in emacs? The most
> > > convenient thing for me would
> > > be to see the preview while I am developing the picture and then as a
> > last
> > > step export it to my latex document.
> > >
> > > Do you this is possible somehow?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Johan
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <
> > darcamo@gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Remember that because pstricks use postscript commands it is necessary
> > to
> > > > take
> > > > the long route in latex (latex->DVI->PS->PDF) instead of just using
> > > > pdflatex. Therefore, if you put some pstricks code in the org-file and
> > > > export to
> > > > PDF to see the result then this is the reason, since the exporter seems
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > pdflatex to process the generated .tex file (I'm assuming this, since I
> > > > don't
> > > > see any DVI or PS file created by the exporter).
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Darlan
> > > >
> > > > At Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:33 +0200,
> > > > Johan Ekh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [1  <multipart/alternative (7bit)>]
> > > > > [1.1  <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
> > > > > It seems that I can use any latex package that I want except for the
> > > > > pstricks ones.
> > > > > No picture is produced. No error message either. I load the same
> > packages
> > > > > and use the same
> > > > > pstricks code that I have in a regular latex document (on the same
> > > > computer)
> > > > > and
> > > > > it works in that document.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > //Johan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Johan Ekh <ekh.johan@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, I'll try it!
> > > > > > /Johan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Carsten Dominik <
> > > > carsten.dominik@gmail.com
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Johan Ekh wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  Hi all,
> > > > > >>> I'm using org-mode to write LaTeX snippets that I later (usually)
> > > > > >>> transfer into a separate latex document.
> > > > > >>> Can I also write and preview pstricks code in org-mode?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Also, can I do "usepackage(xxx)" someway do use LaTeX extensions?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{pstricks}
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> or something along those lines.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> HTH
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> - Carsten
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
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