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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
Cc: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>,
	Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>,
	Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>,
	emacs-org list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:15:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3fujzjm68.fsf@stories> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m28tprw9la.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:08:33 -0500")

John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:

> So far, all of these arguments against a tighter development integration with
> ELPA have been predicated on the way that ELPA is used today. ELPA is under
> our control; we can adjust our process to suit the needs of Emacs development.

Yes, but external packages lose much of their value if they aren't
developed in a compatible manner.

> LI> Emacs doesn't seem to have a massive surfeit of developers, so I wonder
> LI> where this plan comes from.
>
> It comes from the desire to decouple the development of large, mostly external
> projects, from core Emacs. They don't belong in Emacs.git.

But you're talking about coupling ELPA tighter with core Emacs, too.
"They don't belong" isn't really much of an argument here.

The question is: What is the most effective way for Emacs developers to
spend their time?  I can't really see that anybody has made the case
that shifting stuff from Emacs core to ELPA will mean less work for...
well, anybody.

(Except perhaps CEDET.  There seems to be a lot of merging problems
there.)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-31 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <874m0maq9e.fsf@gmx.us>
     [not found]       ` <jwvwpdhj43d.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
2017-01-26 15:01         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26  6:19   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26  8:26   ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  1:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30  7:47   ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59     ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51       ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03  2:01         ` John Wiegley
2017-02-04 16:30           ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28       ` David Engster
2017-01-30 21:52         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2017-01-31 15:31                 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-01 18:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19             ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-01 18:51               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45           ` David Engster
2017-02-02  2:56             ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47                   ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57                       ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:55                 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05  7:40                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:15                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  3:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51                           ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-02 16:30               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? David Engster
2017-02-02 18:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:54                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05                   ` David Engster
2017-02-05  9:03                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59                       ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36                         ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03                           ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18                             ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:46                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 23:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00     ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-12  2:22       ` John Wiegley

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