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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 09:50:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlgtod5ef.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2a8a5uwq2.fsf@newartisans.com

> In fact, what we're doing feels like if Python included Django in its main
> repository, just to solve Django's problems of compatibility, testing, and
> making its bugs known to the main Python developers.

No: the reason CEDET is inside Emacs is double:
1- We wanted to make CEDET's features available to more users.
2- We wanted to integrate it more tightly with Emacs (not in terms of
   bug-tracking and releasing schedule, but in terms of making it
   possible for generic Emacs code to use some of CEDET, and to
   encourage more major modes and other features to use CEDET).

Moving all of CEDET to elpa.git (and then including it in the tarball)
would still get us point nb 1 but not point nb 2.

The main problem so far with CEDET is the "two branches" situation, made
worse by the "time-limited" copyright assignment of Eric.

I'm not sure what's going on w.r.t the Eric's copyright assignment, but
if that problem is still with us, then it will plague CEDET-in-elpa just
as much as it did CEDET-in-emacs.

I think the main plan should be to consolidate the development into
a single branch (of course, that can also be several branches, as long
as they are constantly kept in sync).  The easiest would be to have that
"upstream" be in emacs.git for now (since moving Emacs's CEDET outside
of Emacs would likely take time anyway).  It might also be beneficial to
move some of CEDET to elpa.git (those features which aren't "core" and
are hence unlikely to be used by other parts of Emacs), so their
development can be decoupled.  But I think CEDET-core (such as
lisp/cedet/semantic) should stay in emacs.git (and more packages should
make use of it).


        Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-02 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <874m0maq9e.fsf@gmx.us>
     [not found]       ` <jwvwpdhj43d.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
2017-01-26 15:01         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26  6:19   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26  8:26   ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  1:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30  7:47   ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59     ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51       ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03  2:01         ` John Wiegley
2017-02-04 16:30           ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28       ` David Engster
2017-01-30 21:52         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:31                 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-01 18:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19             ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-01 18:51               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45           ` David Engster
2017-02-02  2:56             ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47                   ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57                       ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-02-03  1:55                 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05  7:40                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:15                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  3:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51                           ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-02 16:30               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? David Engster
2017-02-02 18:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:54                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05                   ` David Engster
2017-02-05  9:03                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59                       ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36                         ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03                           ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18                             ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:46                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 23:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00     ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-12  2:22       ` John Wiegley

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