From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
Cc: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
emacs-org list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 17:30:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a8a4ees0.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2a8a5uwq2.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:56:21 -0500")
John Wiegley writes:
>>>>>> "DE" == David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes:
>
> DE> Also, I currently have no idea how to continue with CEDET, as the future
> DE> where development should happen is unclear, and I get the feeling we're
> DE> just waisting our time with the ongoing merge.
>
> Until the dust has settled, please proceed, assuming nothing has
> changed. Move your primary development into Emacs.git.
>
> The changes I'm proposing don't have to happen tomorrow, and I can still be
> convinced they're unnecessary.
So if you don't get convinced, we'll just move again, right? No big
deal.
> My gut tells me, however, that we're supporting an unnecessarily
> monolithic development model for no better reason than "we're used to
> it".
>
> In fact, what we're doing feels like if Python included Django in its main
> repository, just to solve Django's problems of compatibility, testing, and
> making its bugs known to the main Python developers.
You are insinuating that my motivation is to delegate CEDET development
to the core Emacs developers. This is simply not true, and I don't see
how my original mail could be interpreted like that.
So let me try again: What I find completely misguided is to move
packages out of core *but still putting them into the release*. In other
words, in my opinion there are really just two options that make sense:
you either keep a package in core, or you kick it out and don't ship it
with the release.
Say the Python developers would decide: Hey, many people like Django, so
let's just put their latest git master into our release and ship
it. Would you think that is a good approach?
-David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-02 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <874m0maq9e.fsf@gmx.us>
[not found] ` <jwvwpdhj43d.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
2017-01-26 15:01 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39 ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26 6:19 ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 8:26 ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30 7:47 ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51 ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03 2:01 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-04 16:30 ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28 ` David Engster
2017-01-30 21:52 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:31 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55 ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-01 18:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19 ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-01 18:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45 ` David Engster
2017-02-02 2:56 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47 ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57 ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 1:55 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03 4:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05 7:40 ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12 2:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51 ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-02 16:30 ` David Engster [this message]
2017-02-02 18:17 ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 1:54 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03 4:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05 ` David Engster
2017-02-05 9:03 ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59 ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36 ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03 ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18 ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12 2:46 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 23:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-12 2:22 ` John Wiegley
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