From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
Subject: Re: Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:02:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2mw06rxe0.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mw06jnuc.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk>
I also wasn't familiar with it.
I just played around with it a bit to see if you could integrate org-ref
with this. You mostly can do it, but the document probably would need
some final manual polishing for some things.
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/06/11/ox-pandoc-org-mode-+-org-ref-to-docx-with-bibliographies/
Phillip Lord writes:
> I didn't know about this -- this could be a killer feature for me. I
> work a lot with biologists and medics and they are completely
> word-centric.
>
> Phil
>
> Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de> writes:
>
>> On 2015-06-10 Wed 07:14, Ken Mankoff wrote:
>>> I found a happy medium working in Org, exporting to LaTeX, and then
>>> using Pandoc to convert to Word.
>>
>> With ox-pandoc you can export to .docx directly. No need to go through
>> LaTeX. Ox-pandoc is pretty amazing.
>>
>> Titus
>>
>>> I would send the Word and always the canonical PDF version in case some
>>> equations got messed up. This requires manually incorporating the tracked
>>> changes from Word, but I've never been a fan of just clicking "accept" on
>>> changes anyway, and don't mind the manual re-integration of comments.
>>>
>>> -k.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-06-10 at 09:49, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>> Speaking as an advisor/teacher, you should do what they want if you want
>>>> them to help you.
>>>>
>>>> You could ask if they are willing to comment on the pdf, either by hand
>>>> writing on a printed version, or by pdf commenting, or maybe in the
>>>> LaTeX source. But, if that is not what they want, and they cannot work
>>>> with what you give them, you will not get as much feedback as you want,
>>>> and you will end up creating frustration on your end and theirs.
>>>>
>>>> windy writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Another question, I am a student , I think it is a big problem that how to
>>>>> exchange you article with your teacher, because the teacher will comment
>>>>> or revise your article once again and again.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, Many teachers will not use emacs to write articles and also the
>>>>> pdf file is not so convenient to do some modification, how will you deal
>>>>> with the problem ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 在2015年06月09 21时21分, "John Kitchin"<jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>写道:
>>>>>
>>>>> you might also enjoy our youtube video:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgizHHd7nOo
>>>>>
>>>>> And this one on using org-mode in teaching:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSMs-4GlT8&list=FLQp2VLAOlvq142YN3JO3y8w
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRUCiF2MwP4
>>>>>
>>>>> See http://github.com/jkitchin/jmax for my Emacs setup for
>>>>> org-mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> My only other advice is start learning to program in emacs-lisp. It took
>>>>> me about four years to get proficient enough to write org-ref. I learned
>>>>> by solving lots of little problems, and building up to bigger
>>>>> problems. A lot of those are documented in my blog. Read the emacs and
>>>>> emacs-lisp manuals (read them in Emacs or in a browser). They take some
>>>>> time, so skip the stuff that doesn't make sense and come back to it
>>>>> later if you need to. Consider getting the book at
>>>>> https://www.masteringemacs.org. It isn't about org-mode, but it will
>>>>> make you better at using Emacs. Consider reading Land of Lisp. It isn't
>>>>> about Emacs or Emacs-lisp, but it might interest you in programming in a
>>>>> lispy language, and it is a fun read.
>>>>>
>>>>> Buy the org-mode book:
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Org-Mode-Reference-Manual-Organize/dp/9881327709/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433855847&sr=8-1&keywords=org-mode.
>>>>> yes,
>>>>> it is the same stuff as in the manual, but it is a book you can read
>>>>> anywhere anytime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Start by learning how to get org-mode to do some things you want. Just
>>>>> do one thing a day. Every day.
>>>>>
>>>>> You hopefully have 30+ years of career ahead of you, so even if it takes
>>>>> a few years or more to learn how to program in emacs-lisp to customize
>>>>> your workflows, you still have plenty of time to benefit from it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Holger Wenzel writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Xebar,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xebar Saram <zeltakc <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Martin
>>>>>>> Thanks so much for your prompt response. I did ofc do an extensive google
>>>>>> research yet found that as can be seen in your link most entries focus on
>>>>>> either writing papers or general bits an pieces .What i am looking for is a
>>>>>> holistic approach regarding organizing all aspects of academic life and to
>>>>>> hear workflows of other colleagues using org for that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd start with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/08/08/What-we-are-using-org-
>>>>>> mode-for/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> follow John Kitchin's blog there closely and read everything he posts in
>>>>>> this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holger
>>>>>>> z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:16 AM, M <Elwood151 <at> web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Von: Xebar Saram <zeltakc <at> gmail.com>
>>>>>>> > Datum: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:39:14 +0300
>>>>>>> > An: org mode <emacs-orgmode <at> gnu.org>
>>>>>>> > Betreff: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty
>>>>>> viewpoint)?
>>>>>>> > Tips or a good guides sought after :)
>>>>>>> >> Hi all
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Im a young assistant professor (in humanities and thus my horrific
>>>>>> coding
>>>>>>> > skills..basically non ) and having been using orgmode for a year or two
>>>>>>> > now. I love orgmode dearly and use it mainly for note taking, lists etc
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I am aware of the fantastic orgmode capabilities that could benefit me
>>>>>> greatly
>>>>>>> > such as exporting, email tie-ins, beamer support, organizing my
>>>>>> bibliography
>>>>>>> > (i have switched to a .bib file recently for my references), agenda
>>>>>>> > capabilities and so much moreand have tried several of these with mild
>>>>>>> > success.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > unfortunately (and this maybe due to me not being very technical and
>>>>>> lack of
>>>>>>> > coding skills) i still feel like im really not using orgmode to its
>>>>>> potential
>>>>>>> > and still feel miserably lost in terms of organizing my work in academia
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> > all aspects.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > i am looking for 2 things really:
>>>>>>> > 1. as i said in the post topic a good guide if anyone is aware of or
>>>>>> detailed
>>>>>>> > examples of using org in Academia (mainly aimed at faculty :))
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > 2. related to that as a young researcher with multiple students, paper
>>>>>>> > writing, grant applications, department duties, endless TODOS, endless
>>>>>> email i
>>>>>>> > would really be grateful for even non org specific tips on how other
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> > organize all this to make life more..well..organized :)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > thanks alot in advance and sorry for the long mail
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > best
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Xebar,
>>>>>>> I think the first 10 results of the correspondindg google search already
>>>>>>> show some very interesting examples:http://www.google.com/search?
>>>>>> client=safari&rls=en&q=emacs+org-mode+in+resear
>>>>>>> ch&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>>>>>>> Did you have a look at those?
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-11 17:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-08 16:39 Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :) Xebar Saram
2015-06-08 21:16 ` M
2015-06-09 5:13 ` Xebar Saram
2015-06-09 7:00 ` Holger Wenzel
2015-06-09 13:21 ` John Kitchin
2015-06-10 1:57 ` windy
2015-06-10 13:49 ` John Kitchin
2015-06-10 14:14 ` Ken Mankoff
2015-06-10 20:58 ` Titus von der Malsburg
2015-06-11 5:30 ` Rasmus
2015-06-11 14:56 ` Phillip Lord
2015-06-11 17:02 ` John Kitchin [this message]
2015-06-12 13:24 ` Phillip Lord
2015-06-10 14:16 ` Julian Burgos
2015-06-11 2:07 ` windy
2015-06-11 5:38 ` Rasmus
2015-06-11 12:19 ` windy
2015-06-11 12:18 ` Ken Mankoff
2015-06-11 12:54 ` windy
2015-06-12 14:02 ` Ken Mankoff
2015-06-13 19:06 ` Xebar Saram
2015-06-13 19:52 ` John Kitchin
2015-06-15 17:33 ` Julian Burgos
2015-06-16 1:49 ` Bob Newell
2015-06-16 23:15 ` Alan L Tyree
2015-06-10 18:51 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-06-09 9:49 ` Alan Schmitt
2015-08-26 14:17 ` Anders Johansson
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