From: Ken Mankoff <mankoff@gmail.com>
To: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: Holger Wenzel <drholgerwenzel@gmail.com>,
emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, windy <chxp_moon@163.com>
Subject: Re: Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:14:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m27frbabwz.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2mw078ygt.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu>
I found a happy medium working in Org, exporting to LaTeX, and then using Pandoc to convert to Word. I would send the Word and always the canonical PDF version in case some equations got messed up. This requires manually incorporating the tracked changes from Word, but I've never been a fan of just clicking "accept" on changes anyway, and don't mind the manual re-integration of comments.
-k.
On 2015-06-10 at 09:49, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Speaking as an advisor/teacher, you should do what they want if you want
> them to help you.
>
> You could ask if they are willing to comment on the pdf, either by hand
> writing on a printed version, or by pdf commenting, or maybe in the
> LaTeX source. But, if that is not what they want, and they cannot work
> with what you give them, you will not get as much feedback as you want,
> and you will end up creating frustration on your end and theirs.
>
> windy writes:
>
>> Another question, I am a student , I think it is a big problem that how to exchange you article with your teacher, because the teacher will comment or revise your article once again and again.
>>
>> However, Many teachers will not use emacs to write articles and also the pdf file is not so convenient to do some modification, how will you deal with the problem ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 在2015年06月09 21时21分, "John Kitchin"<jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>写道:
>>
>> you might also enjoy our youtube video:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgizHHd7nOo
>>
>> And this one on using org-mode in teaching:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSMs-4GlT8&list=FLQp2VLAOlvq142YN3JO3y8w
>>
>> and
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRUCiF2MwP4
>>
>> See http://github.com/jkitchin/jmax for my Emacs setup for
>> org-mode.
>>
>> My only other advice is start learning to program in emacs-lisp. It took
>> me about four years to get proficient enough to write org-ref. I learned
>> by solving lots of little problems, and building up to bigger
>> problems. A lot of those are documented in my blog. Read the emacs and
>> emacs-lisp manuals (read them in Emacs or in a browser). They take some
>> time, so skip the stuff that doesn't make sense and come back to it
>> later if you need to. Consider getting the book at
>> https://www.masteringemacs.org. It isn't about org-mode, but it will
>> make you better at using Emacs. Consider reading Land of Lisp. It isn't
>> about Emacs or Emacs-lisp, but it might interest you in programming in a
>> lispy language, and it is a fun read.
>>
>> Buy the org-mode book:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Org-Mode-Reference-Manual-Organize/dp/9881327709/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433855847&sr=8-1&keywords=org-mode. yes,
>> it is the same stuff as in the manual, but it is a book you can read
>> anywhere anytime.
>>
>> Start by learning how to get org-mode to do some things you want. Just
>> do one thing a day. Every day.
>>
>> You hopefully have 30+ years of career ahead of you, so even if it takes
>> a few years or more to learn how to program in emacs-lisp to customize
>> your workflows, you still have plenty of time to benefit from it!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Holger Wenzel writes:
>>
>>> Hi Xebar,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Xebar Saram <zeltakc <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Martin
>>>> Thanks so much for your prompt response. I did ofc do an extensive google
>>> research yet found that as can be seen in your link most entries focus on
>>> either writing papers or general bits an pieces .What i am looking for is a
>>> holistic approach regarding organizing all aspects of academic life and to
>>> hear workflows of other colleagues using org for that
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd start with:
>>>
>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/08/08/What-we-are-using-org-
>>> mode-for/
>>>
>>> follow John Kitchin's blog there closely and read everything he posts in
>>> this list.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Holger
>>>> z
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:16 AM, M <Elwood151 <at> web.de> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Von: Xebar Saram <zeltakc <at> gmail.com>
>>>> > Datum: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:39:14 +0300
>>>> > An: org mode <emacs-orgmode <at> gnu.org>
>>>> > Betreff: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty
>>> viewpoint)?
>>>> > Tips or a good guides sought after :)
>>>> >> Hi all
>>>> >
>>>> > Im a young assistant professor (in humanities and thus my horrific
>>> coding
>>>> > skills..basically non ) and having been using orgmode for a year or two
>>>> > now. I love orgmode dearly and use it mainly for note taking, lists etc
>>>> >
>>>> > I am aware of the fantastic orgmode capabilities that could benefit me
>>> greatly
>>>> > such as exporting, email tie-ins, beamer support, organizing my
>>> bibliography
>>>> > (i have switched to a .bib file recently for my references), agenda
>>>> > capabilities and so much moreand have tried several of these with mild
>>>> > success.
>>>> >
>>>> > unfortunately (and this maybe due to me not being very technical and
>>> lack of
>>>> > coding skills) i still feel like im really not using orgmode to its
>>> potential
>>>> > and still feel miserably lost in terms of organizing my work in academia
>>> from
>>>> > all aspects.
>>>> >
>>>> > i am looking for 2 things really:
>>>> > 1. as i said in the post topic a good guide if anyone is aware of or
>>> detailed
>>>> > examples of using org in Academia (mainly aimed at faculty :))
>>>> >
>>>> > 2. related to that as a young researcher with multiple students, paper
>>>> > writing, grant applications, department duties, endless TODOS, endless
>>> email i
>>>> > would really be grateful for even non org specific tips on how other
>>> people
>>>> > organize all this to make life more..well..organized :)
>>>> >
>>>> > thanks alot in advance and sorry for the long mail
>>>> >
>>>> > best
>>>> >
>>>> > Z
>>>>
>>>> Dear Xebar,
>>>> I think the first 10 results of the correspondindg google search already
>>>> show some very interesting examples:http://www.google.com/search?
>>> client=safari&rls=en&q=emacs+org-mode+in+resear
>>>> ch&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>>>> Did you have a look at those?
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-10 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-08 16:39 Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :) Xebar Saram
2015-06-08 21:16 ` M
2015-06-09 5:13 ` Xebar Saram
2015-06-09 7:00 ` Holger Wenzel
2015-06-09 13:21 ` John Kitchin
2015-06-10 1:57 ` windy
2015-06-10 13:49 ` John Kitchin
2015-06-10 14:14 ` Ken Mankoff [this message]
2015-06-10 20:58 ` Titus von der Malsburg
2015-06-11 5:30 ` Rasmus
2015-06-11 14:56 ` Phillip Lord
2015-06-11 17:02 ` John Kitchin
2015-06-12 13:24 ` Phillip Lord
2015-06-10 14:16 ` Julian Burgos
2015-06-11 2:07 ` windy
2015-06-11 5:38 ` Rasmus
2015-06-11 12:19 ` windy
2015-06-11 12:18 ` Ken Mankoff
2015-06-11 12:54 ` windy
2015-06-12 14:02 ` Ken Mankoff
2015-06-13 19:06 ` Xebar Saram
2015-06-13 19:52 ` John Kitchin
2015-06-15 17:33 ` Julian Burgos
2015-06-16 1:49 ` Bob Newell
2015-06-16 23:15 ` Alan L Tyree
2015-06-10 18:51 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-06-09 9:49 ` Alan Schmitt
2015-08-26 14:17 ` Anders Johansson
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