From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ken Mankoff Subject: Re: Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:14:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7e093509.51e.14ddb300091.Coremail.chxp_moon@163.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2glj-0003pu-Fp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:14:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2gle-0007ei-0y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:14:15 -0400 Received: from mail-vn0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22e]:35553) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2gld-0007eR-RD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:14:09 -0400 Received: by vnbf129 with SMTP id f129so8194630vnb.2 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:14:09 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: Holger Wenzel , emacs-orgmode , windy I found a happy medium working in Org, exporting to LaTeX, and then using Pandoc to convert to Word. I would send the Word and always the canonical PDF version in case some equations got messed up. This requires manually incorporating the tracked changes from Word, but I've never been a fan of just clicking "accept" on changes anyway, and don't mind the manual re-integration of comments. -k. On 2015-06-10 at 09:49, John Kitchin wrote: > Speaking as an advisor/teacher, you should do what they want if you want > them to help you. > > You could ask if they are willing to comment on the pdf, either by hand > writing on a printed version, or by pdf commenting, or maybe in the > LaTeX source. But, if that is not what they want, and they cannot work > with what you give them, you will not get as much feedback as you want, > and you will end up creating frustration on your end and theirs. > > windy writes: > >> Another question, I am a student , I think it is a big problem that how to exchange you article with your teacher, because the teacher will comment or revise your article once again and again. >> >> However, Many teachers will not use emacs to write articles and also the pdf file is not so convenient to do some modification, how will you deal with the problem ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在2015年06月09 21时21分, "John Kitchin"写道: >> >> you might also enjoy our youtube video: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgizHHd7nOo >> >> And this one on using org-mode in teaching: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSMs-4GlT8&list=FLQp2VLAOlvq142YN3JO3y8w >> >> and >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRUCiF2MwP4 >> >> See http://github.com/jkitchin/jmax for my Emacs setup for >> org-mode. >> >> My only other advice is start learning to program in emacs-lisp. It took >> me about four years to get proficient enough to write org-ref. I learned >> by solving lots of little problems, and building up to bigger >> problems. A lot of those are documented in my blog. Read the emacs and >> emacs-lisp manuals (read them in Emacs or in a browser). They take some >> time, so skip the stuff that doesn't make sense and come back to it >> later if you need to. Consider getting the book at >> https://www.masteringemacs.org. It isn't about org-mode, but it will >> make you better at using Emacs. Consider reading Land of Lisp. It isn't >> about Emacs or Emacs-lisp, but it might interest you in programming in a >> lispy language, and it is a fun read. >> >> Buy the org-mode book: >> http://www.amazon.com/Org-Mode-Reference-Manual-Organize/dp/9881327709/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433855847&sr=8-1&keywords=org-mode. yes, >> it is the same stuff as in the manual, but it is a book you can read >> anywhere anytime. >> >> Start by learning how to get org-mode to do some things you want. Just >> do one thing a day. Every day. >> >> You hopefully have 30+ years of career ahead of you, so even if it takes >> a few years or more to learn how to program in emacs-lisp to customize >> your workflows, you still have plenty of time to benefit from it! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Holger Wenzel writes: >> >>> Hi Xebar, >>> >>> >>> >>> Xebar Saram gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Martin >>>> Thanks so much for your prompt response. I did ofc do an extensive google >>> research yet found that as can be seen in your link most entries focus on >>> either writing papers or general bits an pieces .What i am looking for is a >>> holistic approach regarding organizing all aspects of academic life and to >>> hear workflows of other colleagues using org for that >>>> >>> >>> >>> I'd start with: >>> >>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/08/08/What-we-are-using-org- >>> mode-for/ >>> >>> follow John Kitchin's blog there closely and read everything he posts in >>> this list. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Holger >>>> z >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:16 AM, M web.de> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Von: Xebar Saram gmail.com> >>>> > Datum: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:39:14 +0300 >>>> > An: org mode gnu.org> >>>> > Betreff: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty >>> viewpoint)? >>>> > Tips or a good guides sought after :) >>>> >> Hi all >>>> > >>>> > Im a young assistant professor (in humanities and thus my horrific >>> coding >>>> > skills..basically non ) and having been using orgmode for a year or two >>>> > now. I love orgmode dearly and use it mainly for note taking, lists etc >>>> > >>>> > I am aware of the fantastic orgmode capabilities that could benefit me >>> greatly >>>> > such as exporting, email tie-ins, beamer support, organizing my >>> bibliography >>>> > (i have switched to a .bib file recently for my references), agenda >>>> > capabilities and so much moreand have tried several of these with mild >>>> > success. >>>> > >>>> > unfortunately (and this maybe due to me not being very technical and >>> lack of >>>> > coding skills) i still feel like im really not using orgmode to its >>> potential >>>> > and still feel miserably lost in terms of organizing my work in academia >>> from >>>> > all aspects. >>>> > >>>> > i am looking for 2 things really: >>>> > 1. as i said in the post topic a good guide if anyone is aware of or >>> detailed >>>> > examples of using org in Academia (mainly aimed at faculty :)) >>>> > >>>> > 2. related to that as a young researcher with multiple students, paper >>>> > writing, grant applications, department duties, endless TODOS, endless >>> email i >>>> > would really be grateful for even non org specific tips on how other >>> people >>>> > organize all this to make life more..well..organized :) >>>> > >>>> > thanks alot in advance and sorry for the long mail >>>> > >>>> > best >>>> > >>>> > Z >>>> >>>> Dear Xebar, >>>> I think the first 10 results of the correspondindg google search already >>>> show some very interesting examples:http://www.google.com/search? >>> client=safari&rls=en&q=emacs+org-mode+in+resear >>>> ch&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 >>>> Did you have a look at those? >>>> Kind regards >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>