From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty viewpoint)? Tips or a good guides sought after :) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:02:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7e093509.51e.14ddb300091.Coremail.chxp_moon@163.com> <87r3pjgu0j.fsf@posteo.de> <87mw06jnuc.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z35sX-0007Xq-BC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:02:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z35sR-0007ve-RK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:02:57 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::235]:35236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z35sR-0007vH-K0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:02:51 -0400 Received: by qchs1 with SMTP id s1so3772081qch.2 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:02:50 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <87mw06jnuc.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord Cc: emacs-orgmode , Titus von der Malsburg I also wasn't familiar with it. I just played around with it a bit to see if you could integrate org-ref with this. You mostly can do it, but the document probably would need some final manual polishing for some things. http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/06/11/ox-pandoc-org-mode-+-org-= ref-to-docx-with-bibliographies/ Phillip Lord writes: > I didn't know about this -- this could be a killer feature for me. I > work a lot with biologists and medics and they are completely > word-centric. > > Phil > > Titus von der Malsburg writes: > >> On 2015-06-10 Wed 07:14, Ken Mankoff wrote: >>> I found a happy medium working in Org, exporting to LaTeX, and then >>> using Pandoc to convert to Word. >> >> With ox-pandoc you can export to .docx directly. No need to go through >> LaTeX. Ox-pandoc is pretty amazing. >> >> Titus >> >>> I would send the Word and always the canonical PDF version in case some >>> equations got messed up. This requires manually incorporating the track= ed >>> changes from Word, but I've never been a fan of just clicking "accept" = on >>> changes anyway, and don't mind the manual re-integration of comments. >>> >>> -k. >>> >>> >>> On 2015-06-10 at 09:49, John Kitchin wrote: >>>> Speaking as an advisor/teacher, you should do what they want if you wa= nt >>>> them to help you. >>>> >>>> You could ask if they are willing to comment on the pdf, either by hand >>>> writing on a printed version, or by pdf commenting, or maybe in the >>>> LaTeX source. But, if that is not what they want, and they cannot work >>>> with what you give them, you will not get as much feedback as you want, >>>> and you will end up creating frustration on your end and theirs. >>>> >>>> windy writes: >>>> >>>>> Another question, I am a student , I think it is a big problem that h= ow to >>>>> exchange you article with your teacher, because the teacher will comm= ent >>>>> or revise your article once again and again. >>>>> >>>>> However, Many teachers will not use emacs to write articles and also = the >>>>> pdf file is not so convenient to do some modification, how will you d= eal >>>>> with the problem ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =E5=9C=A82015=E5=B9=B406=E6=9C=8809 21=E6=97=B621=E5=88=86, "John Kit= chin"=E5=86=99=E9=81=93: >>>>> >>>>> you might also enjoy our youtube video: >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfgizHHd7nOo >>>>> >>>>> And this one on using org-mode in teaching: >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIsSMs-4GlT8&list=3DFLQp2VLAOlvq142Y= N3JO3y8w >>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcRUCiF2MwP4 >>>>> >>>>> See http://github.com/jkitchin/jmax for my Emacs setup for >>>>> org-mode. >>>>> >>>>> My only other advice is start learning to program in emacs-lisp. It t= ook >>>>> me about four years to get proficient enough to write org-ref. I lear= ned >>>>> by solving lots of little problems, and building up to bigger >>>>> problems. A lot of those are documented in my blog. Read the emacs and >>>>> emacs-lisp manuals (read them in Emacs or in a browser). They take so= me >>>>> time, so skip the stuff that doesn't make sense and come back to it >>>>> later if you need to. Consider getting the book at >>>>> https://www.masteringemacs.org. It isn't about org-mode, but it will >>>>> make you better at using Emacs. Consider reading Land of Lisp. It isn= 't >>>>> about Emacs or Emacs-lisp, but it might interest you in programming i= n a >>>>> lispy language, and it is a fun read. >>>>> >>>>> Buy the org-mode book: >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Org-Mode-Reference-Manual-Organize/dp/988132770= 9/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1433855847&sr=3D8-1&keywords=3Dorg-mode. >>>>> yes, >>>>> it is the same stuff as in the manual, but it is a book you can read >>>>> anywhere anytime. >>>>> >>>>> Start by learning how to get org-mode to do some things you want. Just >>>>> do one thing a day. Every day. >>>>> >>>>> You hopefully have 30+ years of career ahead of you, so even if it ta= kes >>>>> a few years or more to learn how to program in emacs-lisp to customize >>>>> your workflows, you still have plenty of time to benefit from it! >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Holger Wenzel writes: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Xebar, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Xebar Saram gmail.com> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Martin >>>>>>> Thanks so much for your prompt response. I did ofc do an extensive = google >>>>>> research yet found that as can be seen in your link most entries foc= us on >>>>>> either writing papers or general bits an pieces .What i am looking f= or is a >>>>>> holistic approach regarding organizing all aspects of academic life = and to >>>>>> hear workflows of other colleagues using org for that >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd start with: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/08/08/What-we-are-using-= org- >>>>>> mode-for/ >>>>>> >>>>>> follow John Kitchin's blog there closely and read everything he post= s in >>>>>> this list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Holger >>>>>>> z >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:16 AM, M web.de> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Von: Xebar Saram gmail.com> >>>>>>> > Datum: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:39:14 +0300 >>>>>>> > An: org mode gnu.org> >>>>>>> > Betreff: [O] Organizing and taming hectic Academia work (faculty >>>>>> viewpoint)? >>>>>>> > Tips or a good guides sought after :) >>>>>>> >> Hi all >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Im a young assistant professor (in humanities and thus my horrific >>>>>> coding >>>>>>> > skills..basically non ) and having been using orgmode for a year = or two >>>>>>> > now. I love orgmode dearly and use it mainly for note taking, lis= ts etc >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I am aware of the fantastic orgmode capabilities that could benef= it me >>>>>> greatly >>>>>>> > such as exporting, email tie-ins, beamer support, organizing my >>>>>> bibliography >>>>>>> > (i have switched to a .bib file recently for my references), agen= da >>>>>>> > capabilities and so much moreand have tried several of these with= mild >>>>>>> > success. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > unfortunately (and this maybe due to me not being very technical = and >>>>>> lack of >>>>>>> > coding skills) i still feel like im really not using orgmode to i= ts >>>>>> potential >>>>>>> > and still feel miserably lost in terms of organizing my work in a= cademia >>>>>> from >>>>>>> > all aspects. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > i am looking for 2 things really: >>>>>>> > 1. as i said in the post topic a good guide if anyone is aware of= or >>>>>> detailed >>>>>>> > examples of using org in Academia (mainly aimed at faculty :)) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 2. related to that as a young researcher with multiple students, = paper >>>>>>> > writing, grant applications, department duties, endless TODOS, en= dless >>>>>> email i >>>>>>> > would really be grateful for even non org specific tips on how ot= her >>>>>> people >>>>>>> > organize all this to make life more..well..organized :) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > thanks alot in advance and sorry for the long mail >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > best >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Z >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Xebar, >>>>>>> I think the first 10 results of the correspondindg google search al= ready >>>>>>> show some very interesting examples:http://www.google.com/search? >>>>>> client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Demacs+org-mode+in+resear >>>>>>> ch&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8 >>>>>>> Did you have a look at those? >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu