* a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
@ 2007-06-01 16:09 William Henney
2007-06-01 19:28 ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-06-04 8:08 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: William Henney @ 2007-06-01 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi list
I have the following problems with org 4.76 (and previous versions
too). This is with emacs 22.0.50.1 (aquamacs 0.9.9d on OS X). My
fill-paragraph seems to be provided by fill-adapt.el version 2.12. My
indent-relative seems to come from the vanilla emacs version of
indent.el.
Cheers
Will
* Illustration of two bugs in org-mode filling/indenting
** Problem with indent-relative in lists
1. If I carry out the instruction in the following list item, the
item is indented right by 2 spaces
2. *Press TAB key with the cursor in this line*
3. The same thing happens with + or - bullets
4. I have org-cycle-include-plain lists set to nil
5. The problem also appears even with all single-line items
** Problem with fill-paragraph in lists of deeply nested headings
- Another list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
command. Here are some more words.
*** header 3
- A third list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
command. Here are some more words.
**** header 4
- A fourth list item that is filled correctly by the
fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
***** header 5
- A fifth list item that is filled correctly by the
fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
- another item
- and another
****** header 6
- A sixth list item that is filled correctly by the
fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
- another item
- and another
****** This is where the problems start
- A seventh list item that is *not* filled correctly by the
fill-paragraph command, although it does work correctly with
auto-fill-mode. Note that the lines after the first lose all
their indentation.
******** header 8
- An eighth list item that is not filled correctly by the
fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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2007-06-01 16:09 a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists William Henney
@ 2007-06-01 19:28 ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-06-04 8:08 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eddward DeVilla @ 2007-06-01 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Henney; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
For me, my indent problems where solved when I turned off the use of
tabs. I don't remember how I did it right now and I don't have access
to my work system at the moment. I'll let you know when I can check.
Edd
On 6/1/07, William Henney <whenney@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi list
>
> I have the following problems with org 4.76 (and previous versions
> too). This is with emacs 22.0.50.1 (aquamacs 0.9.9d on OS X). My
> fill-paragraph seems to be provided by fill-adapt.el version 2.12. My
> indent-relative seems to come from the vanilla emacs version of
> indent.el.
>
> Cheers
>
> Will
>
>
> * Illustration of two bugs in org-mode filling/indenting
> ** Problem with indent-relative in lists
> 1. If I carry out the instruction in the following list item, the
> item is indented right by 2 spaces
> 2. *Press TAB key with the cursor in this line*
> 3. The same thing happens with + or - bullets
> 4. I have org-cycle-include-plain lists set to nil
> 5. The problem also appears even with all single-line items
>
> ** Problem with fill-paragraph in lists of deeply nested headings
> - Another list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
> command. Here are some more words.
> *** header 3
> - A third list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
> command. Here are some more words.
> **** header 4
> - A fourth list item that is filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
> ***** header 5
> - A fifth list item that is filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
> - another item
> - and another
> ****** header 6
> - A sixth list item that is filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
> - another item
> - and another
> ****** This is where the problems start
> - A seventh list item that is *not* filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command, although it does work correctly with
> auto-fill-mode. Note that the lines after the first lose all
> their indentation.
> ******** header 8
> - An eighth list item that is not filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
>
> --
>
> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-01 16:09 a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists William Henney
2007-06-01 19:28 ` Eddward DeVilla
@ 2007-06-04 8:08 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-06-04 10:57 ` Leo
2007-06-04 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-06-04 8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
As Eddward says, you seem to be able to circumvent this by not
allowing indent.el to use TAB characters for indentation:
(setq indent-tabs-mode nil)
It seems to me that this problem is a bug in the Emacs indentation
code, not in Org-mode.
- Carsten
On Jun 1, 2007, at 18:09, William Henney wrote:
> Hi list
>
> I have the following problems with org 4.76 (and previous versions
> too). This is with emacs 22.0.50.1 (aquamacs 0.9.9d on OS X). My
> fill-paragraph seems to be provided by fill-adapt.el version 2.12. My
> indent-relative seems to come from the vanilla emacs version of
> indent.el.
>
> Cheers
>
> Will
>
>
> * Illustration of two bugs in org-mode filling/indenting
> ** Problem with indent-relative in lists
> 1. If I carry out the instruction in the following list item, the
> item is indented right by 2 spaces
> 2. *Press TAB key with the cursor in this line*
> 3. The same thing happens with + or - bullets
> 4. I have org-cycle-include-plain lists set to nil
> 5. The problem also appears even with all single-line items
>
> ** Problem with fill-paragraph in lists of deeply nested headings
> - Another list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
> command. Here are some more words.
> *** header 3
> - A third list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
> command. Here are some more words.
> **** header 4
> - A fourth list item that is filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
> ***** header 5
> - A fifth list item that is filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
> - another item
> - and another
> ****** header 6
> - A sixth list item that is filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
> - another item
> - and another
> ****** This is where the problems start
> - A seventh list item that is *not* filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command, although it does work correctly with
> auto-fill-mode. Note that the lines after the first lose all
> their indentation.
> ******** header 8
> - An eighth list item that is not filled correctly by the
> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
>
> --
>
> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-04 8:08 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-06-04 10:57 ` Leo
2007-06-04 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Leo @ 2007-06-04 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
----- Carsten Dominik (2007-06-04) wrote:-----
> As Eddward says, you seem to be able to circumvent this by not
> allowing indent.el to use TAB characters for indentation:
>
> (setq indent-tabs-mode nil)
>
> It seems to me that this problem is a bug in the Emacs indentation
> code, not in Org-mode.
>
> - Carsten
This seems to come up quite often. Maybe we should report it to Emacs to
get it properly fixed ;)
I don't understand what's wrong and what should be fixed. Otherwise I
will report it.
--
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-04 8:08 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-06-04 10:57 ` Leo
@ 2007-06-04 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-06-04 13:39 ` William Henney
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-06-04 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
It turns out that this was after all an org-mode bug.
Fixed for 4.77, thanks.
- Carsten
On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:08, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> As Eddward says, you seem to be able to circumvent this by not
> allowing indent.el to use TAB characters for indentation:
>
> (setq indent-tabs-mode nil)
>
> It seems to me that this problem is a bug in the Emacs indentation
> code, not in Org-mode.
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Jun 1, 2007, at 18:09, William Henney wrote:
>
>> Hi list
>>
>> I have the following problems with org 4.76 (and previous versions
>> too). This is with emacs 22.0.50.1 (aquamacs 0.9.9d on OS X). My
>> fill-paragraph seems to be provided by fill-adapt.el version 2.12. My
>> indent-relative seems to come from the vanilla emacs version of
>> indent.el.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>> * Illustration of two bugs in org-mode filling/indenting
>> ** Problem with indent-relative in lists
>> 1. If I carry out the instruction in the following list item, the
>> item is indented right by 2 spaces
>> 2. *Press TAB key with the cursor in this line*
>> 3. The same thing happens with + or - bullets
>> 4. I have org-cycle-include-plain lists set to nil
>> 5. The problem also appears even with all single-line items
>>
>> ** Problem with fill-paragraph in lists of deeply nested headings
>> - Another list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
>> command. Here are some more words.
>> *** header 3
>> - A third list item that is filled correctly by the fill-paragraph
>> command. Here are some more words.
>> **** header 4
>> - A fourth list item that is filled correctly by the
>> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
>> ***** header 5
>> - A fifth list item that is filled correctly by the
>> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
>> - another item
>> - and another
>> ****** header 6
>> - A sixth list item that is filled correctly by the
>> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
>> - another item
>> - and another
>> ****** This is where the problems start
>> - A seventh list item that is *not* filled correctly by the
>> fill-paragraph command, although it does work correctly with
>> auto-fill-mode. Note that the lines after the first lose all
>> their indentation.
>> ******** header 8
>> - An eighth list item that is not filled correctly by the
>> fill-paragraph command. Here are some more words.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>>
>
> --
> Carsten Dominik
> Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
> Universiteit van Amsterdam
> Kruislaan 403
> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
> phone: +31 20 525 7477
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-04 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-06-04 13:39 ` William Henney
2007-06-04 19:15 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: William Henney @ 2007-06-04 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 6/4/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> It turns out that this was after all an org-mode bug.
>
> Fixed for 4.77, thanks.
Thanks Carsten. Is this fix just for the indent-relative bug, or does
it fix the second (fill-paragraph) bug as well? I think that the
second bug might not have anything to do with lists, since I am sure I
have occasionally seen it in a plain paragraph after a deeply nested
heading, but I can't seem to reproduce that now.
Cheers
Will
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-04 13:39 ` William Henney
@ 2007-06-04 19:15 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-06-04 23:46 ` William Henney
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-06-04 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Henney; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Jun 4, 2007, at 15:39, William Henney wrote:
> On 6/4/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>> It turns out that this was after all an org-mode bug.
>>
>> Fixed for 4.77, thanks.
>
> Thanks Carsten. Is this fix just for the indent-relative bug, or does
> it fix the second (fill-paragraph) bug as well? I think that the
> second bug might not have anything to do with lists, since I am sure I
> have occasionally seen it in a plain paragraph after a deeply nested
> heading, but I can't seem to reproduce that now.
The fix will only fix the second bug (with fill-paragraph). The first
problem I believe cannot be fixed, because Org-mode cannot know if
you want to start a new level of lists, or if you are continuing the
current list.
- Carsten
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-04 19:15 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-06-04 23:46 ` William Henney
2007-06-06 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: William Henney @ 2007-06-04 23:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 6/4/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
> On Jun 4, 2007, at 15:39, William Henney wrote:
>
> > Thanks Carsten. Is this fix just for the indent-relative bug, or does
> > it fix the second (fill-paragraph) bug as well?
>
> The fix will only fix the second bug (with fill-paragraph). The first
> problem I believe cannot be fixed, because Org-mode cannot know if
> you want to start a new level of lists, or if you are continuing the
> current list.
>
Thanks for the explanation. I am still a bit confused though, since
even if org thought I wanted to start a new list, then it should only
indent by one space, whereas it actually indents by two....
I repeat my original example here:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
** Problem with indent-relative in lists
1. If I carry out the instruction in the following list item, the
item is indented right by 2 spaces
2. *Press TAB key with the cursor in this line*
3. The same thing happens with + or - bullets
4. I have org-cycle-include-plain lists set to nil
5. The problem also appears even with all single-line items
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In the case of ordered lists, I think that you can tell (in principle)
if the item represents the start of a new list. Whether it is worth
your effort is another matter :)
Cheers
Will
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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2007-06-04 23:46 ` William Henney
@ 2007-06-06 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-06-06 12:18 ` William Henney
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-06-06 8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Henney; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Jun 5, 2007, at 1:46, William Henney wrote:
> On 6/4/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2007, at 15:39, William Henney wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Carsten. Is this fix just for the indent-relative bug, or
>> does
>> > it fix the second (fill-paragraph) bug as well?
>>
>> The fix will only fix the second bug (with fill-paragraph). The first
>> problem I believe cannot be fixed, because Org-mode cannot know if
>> you want to start a new level of lists, or if you are continuing the
>> current list.
>>
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I am still a bit confused though, since
> even if org thought I wanted to start a new list, then it should only
> indent by one space, whereas it actually indents by two....
>
No, when starting a new list level, the bullet character should be
under the left margin of the text of the upper llevel, i.e.
2 characters indented.
> In the case of ordered lists, I think that you can tell (in principle)
> if the item represents the start of a new list. Whether it is worth
> your effort is another matter :)
Yes, I could do a lot of parsing, but I don't think it is worth the
effort.
If you use M-RET to make new list items, indentation is set correctly.
- Carsten
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-06 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-06-06 12:18 ` William Henney
2007-06-06 12:41 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: William Henney @ 2007-06-06 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Carsten
On 6/6/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> No, when starting a new list level, the bullet character should be
> under the left margin of the text of the upper llevel, i.e.
> 2 characters indented.
That's not how it works for me. For instance, org-metaright indents by
one extra character, not two. Same in lists as with headings. Perhaps,
you are you thinking of the case with org-odd-levels-only set to t.
> > In the case of ordered lists, I think that you can tell (in principle)
> > if the item represents the start of a new list. Whether it is worth
> > your effort is another matter :)
>
> Yes, I could do a lot of parsing, but I don't think it is worth the
> effort.
Agreed
Cheers
Will
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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* Re: a couple of possible bugs in filling/indenting of plain lists
2007-06-06 12:18 ` William Henney
@ 2007-06-06 12:41 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-06-06 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Henney; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Jun 6, 2007, at 14:18, William Henney wrote:
> Hi Carsten
>
> On 6/6/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>> No, when starting a new list level, the bullet character should be
>> under the left margin of the text of the upper llevel, i.e.
>> 2 characters indented.
>
> That's not how it works for me. For instance, org-metaright indents by
> one extra character, not two. Same in lists as with headings. Perhaps,
> you are you thinking of the case with org-odd-levels-only set to t.
Yes, the demotion commands shift only by one character at a time, you
need to press them several times to get the indentation shift you
want.
However, your question was about TAB, and that works as I described.
- Carsten
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