* Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-10-16 9:29 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2007-10-16 9:35 ` Stefan Kamphausen
2007-10-16 14:51 ` Rick Moynihan
2007-10-16 9:39 ` Leo
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From: Nuutti Kotivuori @ 2007-10-16 9:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
> close to 20 email a day.
>
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
I think it is fine. The issues raised on the mailing list are very
much to the point and actually relevant to org-mode.
The only discussions I skip are the ones where there's a long
discussion of some at the moment ephemeral feature (like task
dependencies/triggers).
-- Naked
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2007-10-16 9:29 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
@ 2007-10-16 9:35 ` Stefan Kamphausen
2007-10-16 14:51 ` Rick Moynihan
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From: Stefan Kamphausen @ 2007-10-16 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nuutti Kotivuori; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
Nuutti Kotivuori <naked@iki.fi> writes:
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
>> close to 20 email a day.
>>
>> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
>> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
>> things cool off a bit?
>
I just subscribed to this list (thus posting a followup to Nuuttis
post). 20 mails a day sound pretty OK to me. Using Gnus makes
handling of this easy :-)
Best Regards
Stefan
--
Stefan Kamphausen --- http://www.skamphausen.de
a blessed +42 regexp of confusion (weapon in hand)
You hit. The format string crumbles and turns to dust.
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* Re: Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
2007-10-16 9:29 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2007-10-16 9:35 ` Stefan Kamphausen
@ 2007-10-16 14:51 ` Rick Moynihan
2007-10-16 15:03 ` William Henney
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From: Rick Moynihan @ 2007-10-16 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Nuutti Kotivuori wrote:
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
>> close to 20 email a day.
>>
>> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
>> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
>> things cool off a bit?
>
> I think it is fine. The issues raised on the mailing list are very
> much to the point and actually relevant to org-mode.
Agreed. I do fall behind on reading it every now and then but I always
try and catch up because the quality of discussions is so high. I like
having such a receptive community.
R.
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* Re: Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
2007-10-16 14:51 ` Rick Moynihan
@ 2007-10-16 15:03 ` William Henney
2007-10-16 16:08 ` Rick Moynihan
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From: William Henney @ 2007-10-16 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: org-mode
On 10/16/07, Rick Moynihan <rick@calicojack.co.uk> wrote:
> Nuutti Kotivuori wrote:
> > Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
> >> close to 20 email a day.
> >>
> >> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> >> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> >> things cool off a bit?
> >
> > I think it is fine. The issues raised on the mailing list are very
> > much to the point and actually relevant to org-mode.
>
> Agreed. I do fall behind on reading it every now and then but I always
> try and catch up because the quality of discussions is so high. I like
> having such a receptive community.
>
Agreed too. Sometimes my eyes glaze over the GTD threads, but I can
always mute the threads I'm not interested in. Perhaps an additional
low volume org-mode-announce list would be a good idea for those more
interested in product than process...
Cheers
Will
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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* Re: Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
2007-10-16 15:03 ` William Henney
@ 2007-10-16 16:08 ` Rick Moynihan
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From: Rick Moynihan @ 2007-10-16 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Henney; +Cc: org-mode
William Henney wrote:
>> Agreed. I do fall behind on reading it every now and then but I always
>> try and catch up because the quality of discussions is so high. I like
>> having such a receptive community.
>>
>
> Agreed too. Sometimes my eyes glaze over the GTD threads, but I can
> always mute the threads I'm not interested in. Perhaps an additional
> low volume org-mode-announce list would be a good idea for those more
> interested in product than process...
>
To be honest I think we're still too small to justify the overhead of
another list. When we're touching on having 100s of posts a day, maybe.
R.
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* Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
2007-10-16 9:29 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
@ 2007-10-16 9:39 ` Leo
2007-10-16 10:38 ` John Wiegley
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From: Leo @ 2007-10-16 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 2007-10-16 10:00 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
> close to 20 email a day.
>
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
>
> - Carsten
>
> P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next
> few days, but it is for a good cause.... :-)
This is actually great news. The community of org mode is almost as
active as emacs-devel ;)
--
.: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :.
Use the most powerful email client -- http://gnus.org/
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
2007-10-16 9:29 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2007-10-16 9:39 ` Leo
@ 2007-10-16 10:38 ` John Wiegley
2007-10-16 11:08 ` Rainer Stengele
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From: John Wiegley @ 2007-10-16 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode list
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address
> this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit?
Emacs Gnus, using adaptive scoring, causes the org-mode list to be at most
5-10 postings a day for me. That's well within my tolerance.
John
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2007-10-16 10:38 ` John Wiegley
@ 2007-10-16 11:08 ` Rainer Stengele
2007-10-16 12:07 ` Ian Barton
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From: Rainer Stengele @ 2007-10-16 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
> close to 20 email a day.
>
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
>
> - Carsten
>
> P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next
> few days, but it is for a good cause.... :-)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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>
Hi,
I like the mailing list being so active. The whole org-stuff is plain fun at work and at home.
I've never been organized as easy as today - which doesn't mean I do not have some important needs left...
rainer
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2007-10-16 11:08 ` Rainer Stengele
@ 2007-10-16 12:07 ` Ian Barton
2007-10-16 12:49 ` Bastien
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From: Ian Barton @ 2007-10-16 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: org-mode list
No problem for me. It's nice to have such an active and friendly community.
Ian.
>
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
>
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
` (4 preceding siblings ...)
2007-10-16 12:07 ` Ian Barton
@ 2007-10-16 12:49 ` Bastien
2007-10-16 13:57 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: Bastien @ 2007-10-16 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things
> cool off a bit?
For my part, it's okay, and I will slow down a bit :)
> P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next few
> days, but it is for a good cause.... :-)
For the good cause as well, here are a few stats about the list. Data
have been collected between March 2006 (gmane access?) and now:
Total number of posts: 3873
Average bytes/post: 5170.235218
Total number of posters: 238
Average posts/poster: 16.273109
1154 Carsten Dominik
371 Bastien
217 Leo
112 Eddward DeVilla
82 Jason F. McBrayer
70 Bernt Hansen
70 David O'Toole
69 Rainer Stengele
67 T. V. Raman
63 Xavier Maillard
59 Scott Jaderholm
51 William Henney
47 J. David Boyd
40 Tim O'Callaghan
39 Piotr Zielinski
37 John Wiegley
35 Russell Adams
35 Scott Otterson
33 Georg C. F. Greve
33 Daniel J. Sinder
Total number of subjects: 1055
Average posts/subject: 3.671090
55 depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically
34 log on state change
33 Integration of Org mode and mairix
30 Org-mode version 5.01
26 an annoying indentation
24 Integration of Org mode and Gnus
23 Feature request: Selective encryption
23 Another GTD question.
21 Org-mode 4.78
19 Categories
19 Release: Org-mode 5.09
19 Duration Tally
18 Attention XEmacs users
17 Tutorials
16 org-mode and Google Calendar
16 postponing todos
16 Idea: Agenda Search publish?
15 Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
15 Org-mode with color-theme.el
14 GTD: Solving the bottleneck of converting incoming mails to NEXT actions
Links to the first five most active subjects:
55 depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3641>
34 log on state change
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2887>
33 Integration of Org mode and mairix
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2513>
30 Org-mode version 5.01
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2209>
26 an annoying indentation
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2005>
--
Bastien
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
` (5 preceding siblings ...)
2007-10-16 12:49 ` Bastien
@ 2007-10-16 13:57 ` Bernt Hansen
2007-10-16 16:46 ` Eddward DeVilla
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2007-10-16 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
> close to 20 email a day.
>
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
>
> - Carsten
>
> P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next
> few days, but it is for a good cause.... :-)
I'm not going anywhere :)
Gnus and gmane is wonderful!
Regards,
Bernt
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
` (6 preceding siblings ...)
2007-10-16 13:57 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2007-10-16 16:46 ` Eddward DeVilla
2007-10-16 17:00 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2007-10-16 21:12 ` Philip Rooke
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From: Eddward DeVilla @ 2007-10-16 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode list
On 10/16/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
> close to 20 email a day.
>
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
>
> - Carsten
>
> P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next
> few days, but it is for a good cause.... :-)
I've been having a little trouble keeping up and have skimmed over
some of the thread I'm not as interested in. I'm still glad that
there is enough interest to have this kind of traffic. That outliner
I depended on before org-mode died from lack of interest.
Edd
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
` (7 preceding siblings ...)
2007-10-16 16:46 ` Eddward DeVilla
@ 2007-10-16 17:00 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2007-10-16 21:12 ` Philip Rooke
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From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2007-10-16 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> Hi,
>
> the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had
> close to 20 email a day.
>
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
>
> - Carsten
Absolutely not. FYI, I find the increased traffic a little reassuring
that there are others using the software. I already feel lonely in
office using Emacs.... :-)
sivaram
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2007-10-16 9:00 POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? Carsten Dominik
` (8 preceding siblings ...)
2007-10-16 17:00 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
@ 2007-10-16 21:12 ` Philip Rooke
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From: Philip Rooke @ 2007-10-16 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode list
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to
> address this, or will people stick around and just wait until
> things cool off a bit?
Doesn't worry me at all. I know I haven't posted anything for a long
while but I am still happy watching the development of this great mode
and love the energy that seems to be surrounding it at the moment. (It
has certainly come a long way from v3.? or whatever might have been
the first version I sent bug reports on...)
Phil
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