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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Gustavo Barros <gusbrs.2016@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changed list indentation behavior: how to revert?
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 01:21:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <X68G4wcxS823z2vc@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zh3koqgk.fsf@gmail.com>

* Gustavo Barros <gusbrs.2016@gmail.com> [2020-11-14 01:14]:
> 
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:47, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> 
> > * Gustavo Barros <gusbrs.2016@gmail.com> [2020-11-14 00:12]:
> > 
> > I have seen discussion with very little reasoning. You are changing
> > default for many users and large subset of those users will not read
> > the NEWS. And now you are discovering that there are people who get
> > messed up with it. Is it really useful? So far I remember the
> > electric-indent-mode did work in Org mode without this anti-enhancement.
> > 
> [...]
> > 
> > Introducing default that changes habits and gives more work to present
> > users is not useful.
> > 
> > Did you consider number of users who would now maybe need to introduce
> > local variable just to turn that off? Sorry that I do not find this
> > case reasonable.
> 
> Oh, my!  I'm not even the person you should be ranting to.  I'm just an
> user, and someone who follows this list, and was trying to be helpful.
> 
> But, as such, I do get what motivated maintainers to make the change from
> the linked threads.  And I also got from them and the News the information
> needed to adjust for the change, in case I'd want to. Perhaps we read
> differently.

Sorry. I was wondering for quite some time what is happening as I use
development Emacs version. It was so annoying. Now when I know what is
going on I can turn it off.

So far I was thinking that most common Org writing is like this:

* Heading
** Second
*** Third
**** Fourth

And not like:

* Heading
  ** Second
     *** Third
         **** Fourth

As that is how ugly and less visible it should look like if the same
principle should be followed. As if somebody forces me to indent list
items like that, then they shall also force headings. So consistency
is lacking. /s

Please send that to those people to reconsider taking it back.




  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-14  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-13 17:30 Karl Voit
2020-11-13 21:10 ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-13 21:38   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-14  3:02     ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-13 21:47   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-13 22:13     ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-13 22:21       ` Jean Louis [this message]
2020-11-14 17:28         ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-14 19:10           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 12:44             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-15 13:26               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 21:59                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-15 22:15                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-16  7:15                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16  6:26               ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-14 10:45   ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-13 21:31 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-14 22:43 ` David Rogers
2020-11-15  5:38   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15  7:47     ` David Rogers
2020-11-15  8:54       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 10:37       ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-15 11:42         ` Tim Cross
2020-11-15 11:48         ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-15 11:58           ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-15 12:09           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 14:50             ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-15 15:11               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-15 10:44       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-15 11:22         ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-15 14:03           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-16  5:24             ` Kyle Meyer
2020-11-16  6:41               ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16  7:15                 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 11:21                   ` Gustavo Barros
2020-11-16 23:24                     ` T.F. Torrey
2020-11-17  1:21                       ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-17  7:01                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17  7:48                       ` Michal Politowski
2020-11-19  4:17                     ` Marcel Ventosa
2020-11-16  8:06                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-16 12:10                 ` Bill Burdick
2020-11-16  6:54               ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-16  7:12                 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-17  4:03                   ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-17  5:25                     ` Tim Cross
2020-11-17 13:15                       ` Greg Minshall
2020-11-16  7:01               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16  7:22                 ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 16:04                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16 16:26                     ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 18:12                       ` gyro funch
2020-11-16 18:48                         ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 19:41                           ` Bill Burdick
2020-11-16 19:56                             ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 21:50                             ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 23:01                               ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 21:44                           ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 18:20                       ` gyro funch
2020-11-16 20:56                       ` Tim Cross
2020-11-16 21:35                         ` Bill Burdick
2020-11-16 22:44                         ` Tom Gillespie
2020-11-16 23:55                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17  9:05                           ` Stefan Nobis
2020-11-17  9:15                             ` Loris Bennett
2020-11-17  9:32                             ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-17 14:29                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17 16:25                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-11-16 23:39                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-16 21:35                     ` Tim Cross
2020-11-17  0:11                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-11-17  8:45                         ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-17  9:41                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-17 15:33                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-16 13:00                 ` Uwe Brauer
2020-11-16 16:10                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide

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