From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: michel@schi.nz, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 23:43:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR03MB54551B455DAEB936213DE09CA21C9@SJ0PR03MB5455.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 09 Dec 2022 09:17:23 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 13:56:03 -0800
>>
>> In my testing, I found a strange case where, in *scratch*, I get:
>>
>> (message "%s" org-version)
>> ;; Error undefined
>> ;; Do 'C-h v org-version'
>> (message "%s" org-version)
>> 9.3
>>
>> So, 'describe-variable' on org-version causes Org to be loaded?!?
>
> Why is it so surprising? Is this the first time you see that a Help
> command loads something to do its job?
Yes, it is surprising. How did Emacs know to load Org to find
org-version? I didn't request it to by this action. Or did it do a
package-activate-all (or similar) to ensure that everything was loaded?
That would be overkill. Sometimes the best answer is 'nil'.
--
David Masterson
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-09 7:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-06 2:50 Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem David Masterson
2022-12-06 5:36 ` tomas
2022-12-06 7:04 ` David Masterson
2022-12-07 13:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-08 3:27 ` David Masterson
2022-12-08 7:16 ` David Masterson
2022-12-08 7:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-08 18:24 ` David Masterson
2022-12-08 19:31 ` Michel Schinz
2022-12-08 21:56 ` David Masterson
2022-12-08 22:56 ` Tim Cross
2022-12-09 5:00 ` David Masterson
2022-12-09 6:56 ` Tim Cross
2022-12-09 15:49 ` Sharon Kimble
2022-12-10 20:38 ` Tom Gillespie
2022-12-09 7:17 ` bug#59882: " Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09 7:43 ` David Masterson [this message]
2022-12-09 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-09 19:40 ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-09 19:51 ` David Masterson
2022-12-09 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-10 14:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-14 9:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-14 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-14 13:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-14 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-14 16:02 ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-15 4:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-15 4:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-16 12:36 ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-16 14:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-18 15:24 ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-18 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-06 16:09 ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-06 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-19 4:20 ` Tom Gillespie
2022-12-25 9:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-25 11:46 ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-26 8:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-26 11:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-26 12:25 ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-27 9:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-27 9:56 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-03 11:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-03 12:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-03 20:01 ` Tim Cross
2023-02-14 22:53 ` Gregor Zattler
2023-02-16 12:14 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-21 5:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-21 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 17:26 ` Bhavin Gandhi
2023-02-22 10:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-22 16:58 ` Bhavin Gandhi
2023-02-23 9:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-06 15:02 ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-14 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-14 21:49 ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-09 19:47 ` Cook, Malcolm
2022-12-08 21:50 ` Cook, Malcolm
[not found] ` <87o7se74bf.fsf@penguin>
2022-12-08 7:19 ` David Masterson
2022-12-08 9:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
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