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From: Jonathan Leech-Pepin <jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com>
To: Ilya Shlyakhter <ilya_shl@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: are super-hidden technical blocks required?
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:12:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHRqSkTj0-nnH9OkXQjg9vsAHUsm7wMR0Xgv_7fciBcGnP0ckA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACfYvRbDW-KfPBggUwyaC_t2FWA4i8YUoU2yvtR_ARpPbax4cw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Ilya Shlyakhter <ilya_shl@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Torsten Wagner
> <torsten.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can see the point that the property drawer header can be annoying
>> too. Actually, when I used orgmobile for the first time I was not too
>> happy to see all this property drawers suddenly appearing in my files.
>
>> Alternatively to a new kind of drawer, I would think of the
>> HIDDEN_PROP: line and an additional method which hides a drawer even
>> more if it only contains hidden property elements. That could be done,
>> for example, by the already mentioned custom face.
>>
>> That is, a drawer is clearly visible if it contains properties intend
>> to be read/changed by the user (not marked invisible).
>> A drawer is less visible, if it contains only properties marked as hidden.
>
> That would be great.  Except, if a PROPERTIES drawer holds only hidden
> properties,
> it would be best to completely hide the :PROPERTIES: line (using
> outline-flag-region), rather than display it in
> a dimmed font.  So that, unless you explicitly ask to reveal these
> lines, you edit the file as if they weren't there.
>

The issue I can see with completely hiding :PROPERTIES: line is
that you would then run the risk of adding text at the wrong
location (between the headline and the drawer for example).  At
the moment when the drawer is folded you know if the point is
before, within or after the drawer (even though you still can
remove parts of :end: by accident with backspaces), if it isn't
visible at all you don't have that ability.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-06 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-30  2:26 are super-hidden technical blocks required? Torsten Wagner
2012-07-30  7:26 ` Bastien
2012-07-30 10:27   ` Rasmus
2012-07-30 14:27     ` Russell Adams
     [not found]   ` <CAPaq-gMV-+n6OAN4PnBsh1eiJ5wA=Ns_m_qwHqz1pxbOxeYCCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-07-31  2:04     ` Fwd: " Torsten Wagner
2012-07-30 14:42 ` Ivy Foster
2012-07-30 15:23   ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-07-31 13:23     ` Robert Horn
2012-07-31 13:47       ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-04 18:10       ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-05  9:16         ` Bastien
2012-08-05 20:04           ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-05 22:20             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-08-05 22:50               ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06  2:46                 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-06  3:01                   ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06 12:12                     ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin [this message]
2012-08-06 17:25                       ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06 18:16         ` Allen S. Rout
2012-08-06 19:01           ` Michael Brand
2012-08-07 21:29           ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-07-31  2:48 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-01 13:29   ` Bastien
2012-08-02  1:19     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-06 15:02       ` Christopher J. White
2012-08-01 17:11   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-01 18:39     ` Bernt Hansen
2012-08-01 18:49       ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-02  1:16     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-02 15:10       ` Bastien
2012-08-07 21:33         ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-02 13:01   ` babel awk with table input: Code block produced no output Greg Minshall
2012-08-02 13:21     ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-08-03  2:08     ` [BUG] Traceback on Org-Export Luis Anaya
2012-08-03  7:19       ` Bastien
2012-08-03 10:27         ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-04 13:06           ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-04 14:13             ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-04 17:58             ` Bastien
2012-08-04 21:07               ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-05  9:44                 ` Bastien
2012-08-05 15:44                   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-03 10:43         ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-03 11:17           ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2012-08-03 11:32             ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-03 14:34               ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-03 20:09           ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-05 23:57     ` babel awk with table input: Code block produced no output Greg Minshall
2012-08-06  1:36       ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-08-06  4:59         ` Greg Minshall
2012-08-06 15:37       ` Change: no longer automatically evaluate embedded elisp in code block output Was: " Eric Schulte
2012-08-08  5:00         ` Greg Minshall
2012-08-07  3:12 ` are super-hidden technical blocks required? Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 10:23   ` Bastien
2012-08-07 13:20     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 13:39       ` Christopher J. White
2012-08-07 14:11         ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 14:30           ` Robert Horn
2012-08-14  9:58       ` Bastien

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