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From: Robert Horn <rjhorn@alum.mit.edu>
To: Jonathan Leech-Pepin <jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com>,
	Ivy Foster <joyfulgirl@archlinux.us>
Cc: Org Mode Mailing List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: are super-hidden technical blocks required?
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:23:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3obmwnjxn.fsf@quad.robs.office> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHRqSkRgnZYqYcqxrWaj+Hs25yszLbBUFeUgbCoPWHKSMLVFxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jonathan Leech-Pepin <jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>>> This blocks could be hidden under all normal means unlike
>>> really someone want to see them and hit a special
>>> key-combo.
>>
>> Hmm, personally I'd rather have it visible but clearly
>> labeled. Transparency is nearly always a good thing.
>>
>
I agree.  The real use needs more clarification.  Things like ID are
already well hidden as :PROPERTIES: until the user explicitly opens the
drawer for viewing.  I don't understand the need to hide those further, so
a better explanation of why is needed.

I could see a use for a "blob" property.  Suppose I have a JPEG of
someone's portrait that I want to incorporate into a contact's
properties.  Some mechanism to indicate:

:PROPERTIES:
:Portrait: blob-flag application/jpeg alternate-text="Joe's picture" <<hidden-content>>
:END:

with a third level of lisp-function that will open the blob contents as
ugly encoded text or with a decoding/viewing function instead of the
text "<<hidden-content>>".  I could see this being useful for both
textual items like S-exprs, XML, JSON, etc. and for binary things like
JPEG, PDF, etc.  It could be similar to the current embedding done for
literate programming with a way to separate blob content from org
content.

Right now the link capabilities are available for blob-like uses, but
links don't work if I need to move the org-mode files between machines,
etc.

R Horn
rjhorn@alum.mit.edu

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-31 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-30  2:26 are super-hidden technical blocks required? Torsten Wagner
2012-07-30  7:26 ` Bastien
2012-07-30 10:27   ` Rasmus
2012-07-30 14:27     ` Russell Adams
     [not found]   ` <CAPaq-gMV-+n6OAN4PnBsh1eiJ5wA=Ns_m_qwHqz1pxbOxeYCCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-07-31  2:04     ` Fwd: " Torsten Wagner
2012-07-30 14:42 ` Ivy Foster
2012-07-30 15:23   ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-07-31 13:23     ` Robert Horn [this message]
2012-07-31 13:47       ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-04 18:10       ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-05  9:16         ` Bastien
2012-08-05 20:04           ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-05 22:20             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-08-05 22:50               ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06  2:46                 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-06  3:01                   ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06 12:12                     ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-08-06 17:25                       ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06 18:16         ` Allen S. Rout
2012-08-06 19:01           ` Michael Brand
2012-08-07 21:29           ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-07-31  2:48 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-01 13:29   ` Bastien
2012-08-02  1:19     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-06 15:02       ` Christopher J. White
2012-08-01 17:11   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-01 18:39     ` Bernt Hansen
2012-08-01 18:49       ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-02  1:16     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-02 15:10       ` Bastien
2012-08-07 21:33         ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-02 13:01   ` babel awk with table input: Code block produced no output Greg Minshall
2012-08-02 13:21     ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-08-03  2:08     ` [BUG] Traceback on Org-Export Luis Anaya
2012-08-03  7:19       ` Bastien
2012-08-03 10:27         ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-04 13:06           ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-04 14:13             ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-04 17:58             ` Bastien
2012-08-04 21:07               ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-05  9:44                 ` Bastien
2012-08-05 15:44                   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-03 10:43         ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-03 11:17           ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2012-08-03 11:32             ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-03 14:34               ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-03 20:09           ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-05 23:57     ` babel awk with table input: Code block produced no output Greg Minshall
2012-08-06  1:36       ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-08-06  4:59         ` Greg Minshall
2012-08-06 15:37       ` Change: no longer automatically evaluate embedded elisp in code block output Was: " Eric Schulte
2012-08-08  5:00         ` Greg Minshall
2012-08-07  3:12 ` are super-hidden technical blocks required? Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 10:23   ` Bastien
2012-08-07 13:20     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 13:39       ` Christopher J. White
2012-08-07 14:11         ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 14:30           ` Robert Horn
2012-08-14  9:58       ` Bastien

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