* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export @ 2011-05-20 19:47 Ken.Williams 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Ken.Williams @ 2011-05-20 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@...> writes: > > <Ken.Williams@...> wrote: > > [...] > > I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for >managing > > the export to both HTML & PDF. > > Just by curiosity, what don't use like that term? I'm not sure - I just hear it used a lot as sort of a "trump card" when someone wants to impress someone else with how great their methods are, or if they want to squash someone else's "non-compliant" tool usage. In this case though, I'm perfectly willing to be impressed with someone's method. =) > I've no time to customize it to your particular needs, but here's >something > you can update to map it to your needs: > > #+begin_src org > #+BABEL: :results (if (and (boundp 'backend) (eq backend 'latex)) >"latex" "file") > #+end_src Thanks Seb, I'll try working with that. I haven't ever done any Lisp stuff in org-mode, so I may be a little bit lost here, but I'll experiment a bit. Is there somewhere in the orgmode manual that talks about where Lisp can be embedded in documents for interpolation like this? I hadn't seen that kind of thing before. > > Please post your solution for the sake of further sharing... Definitely will if I find something useful! -- Ken Williams Senior Research Scientist Thomson Reuters http://labs.thomsonreuters.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Options for HTML & PDF export @ 2011-05-18 21:07 ` Ken.Williaos 2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos 2011-05-19 9:45 ` Sebastien Vauban 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Ken.Williaos @ 2011-05-18 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi, I use the Babel features of org-mode to do a sort of literate-programming thing. I have lots of R code that generates graphics which get included into an exported HTML or PDF (via LaTeX) document. I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for managing the export to both HTML & PDF. For the HTML I generate the graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG format doesn't embed very well, so I need to generate PDF or EPS or somesuch. But then I have to change the ":file filename.png" to ":file filename.pdf", which is quite cumbersome to do every time I want to export. Is there some wcy people have for dealing with this situation? Some options setting maybe? Thanks. -- Ken Williams Senior Research Scientist Thomson Reuters http://labs.thomsonreuters.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export 2011-05-18 21:07 ` Ken.Williaos @ 2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos 2011-05-18 21:28 ` Ken.Williams 2011-05-19 9:45 ` Sebastien Vauban 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2011-05-18 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ken.Williams; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode List-Post8 <mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode>, <mailto:emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org <Ken.Williams@thomsonreuters.com> wrote: > I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for > managing the export to both HTML & PDF. For the HTML I generate the > graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG format doesn't embed very > well, What is the problem with PNG exactly? I've never had any problems incorporating them into a PDF. It is a bitmap format, so it will not suffer extreme changes in magnification without some ugliness of course, but other than that I don't know of any problems. Nick > so I need to generate PDF or EPS or somesuch. But then I have > to change the ":file filename.png" to ":file filename.pdf", which is > quite cumbersome to do every time I want to export. > > Is there some way people have for dealing with this situation? Some options setting maybe? > > Thanks. > > -- > Ken Williams > Senior Research Scientist > > Thomson Reuters > > http://labs.thomsonreuters.com > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export 2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos @ 2011-05-18 21:28 ` Ken.Williams 2011-05-19 12:28 ` Christophe Rhodes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ken.Williams @ 2011-05-18 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On 5/18/11 4:19 PM, "Nick Dokos" <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote: ><Ken.Williams@thomsonreuters.com> wrote: > >> I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for >> managing the export to both HTML & PDF. For the HTML I generate the >> graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG format doesn't embed very >> well, > >What is the problem with PNG exactly? I've never had any problems >incorporating them into a PDF. It is a bitmap format, so it will not >suffer extreme changes in magnification without some ugliness of course, >but other than that I don't know of any problems. That is exactly the problem =). It does include itself into the document, it just doesn't look very nice. Since these are data-based graphics coming from R, their lines should be nice & crisp, but they end up looking pretty fuzzy. -- Ken Williams Senior Research Scientist Thomson Reuters http://labs.thomsonreuters.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export 2011-05-18 21:28 ` Ken.Williams @ 2011-05-19 12:28 ` Christophe Rhodes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Christophe Rhodes @ 2011-05-19 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode <Ken.Williams@thomsonreuters.com> writes: > On 5/18/11 4:19 PM, "Nick Dokos" <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote: >>What is the problem with PNG exactly? I've never had any problems >>incorporating them into a PDF. It is a bitmap format, so it will not >>suffer extreme changes in magnification without some ugliness of course, >>but other than that I don't know of any problems. > > That is exactly the problem =). It does include itself into the document, > it just doesn't look very nice. Since these are data-based graphics > coming from R, their lines should be nice & crisp, but they end up looking > pretty fuzzy. For what it's worth, I've been experimenting with the tikzDevice R graphics device. I have in the preamble of my current document #+srcname: orgrsetup #+begin_src R :session *R* :exports none :results none library(tikzDevice) org.device <- function(name, ext) { file <- sprintf("%s.%s", name, ext) switch(ext, "png"=png(file, width=480, height=384), "tikz"=tikz(file, width=5, height=4)) } org.raw <- function(name, ext) { file <- sprintf("%s.%s", name, ext) switch(ext, "png"=sprintf("[[file:%s]]", file), "tikz"=sprintf("#+LaTeX: \\input{%s}", file)) } #+end_src and then I use #+begin_src R :session *R* :exports results :results value raw :var name="filename" :var ext=(csr-org-export-babel-graphics-extension) org.device(name, ext) # draw the picture here dev.off() org.raw(name,ext) #+end_src where csr-org-export-babel-graphics-extension returns "tikz" if the backend is latex, and png otherwise. This (with a bit more work on the R side) gives me scalable graphics with fonts matching the PDF document's fonts going through LaTeX, and acceptable-quality HTML. (Which is something I've been looking for for the last six years, so I'm quite pleased at the moment :-) I hope this helps to provide some ideas. Cheers, Christophe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export 2011-05-18 21:07 ` Ken.Williaos 2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos @ 2011-05-19 9:45 ` Sebastien Vauban 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2011-05-19 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Ken, <Ken.Williaos-qs4m+OjfQoH+fug3k4jHmNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote: > I use the Babel features of org-mode to do a sort of literate-programming > thing. I have lots of R code that generates graphics which get included into > an exported HTML or PDF (via LaTeX) document. > > I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for managing > the export to both HTML & PDF. Just by curiosity, what don't use like that term? > For the HTML I generate the graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG > format doesn't embed very well, so I need to generate PDF or EPS or > somesuch. But then I have to change the ":file filename.png" to ":file > filename.pdf", which is quite cumbersome to do every time I want to export. > > Is there some wcy people have for dealing with this situation? Some options > setting maybe? I've no time to customize it to your particular needs, but here's something you can update to map it to your needs: #+begin_src org #+BABEL: :results (if (and (boundp 'backend) (eq backend 'latex)) "latex" "file") #+end_src Please post your solution for the sake of further sharing... Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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