* Options for HTML & PDF export
@ 2011-05-18 21:07 ` Ken.Williaos
2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-19 9:45 ` Sebastien Vauban
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From: Ken.Williaos @ 2011-05-18 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
I use the Babel features of org-mode to do a sort of literate-programming thing. I have lots of R code that generates graphics which get included into an exported HTML or PDF (via LaTeX) document.
I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for managing the export to both HTML & PDF. For the HTML I generate the graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG format doesn't embed very well, so I need to generate PDF or EPS or somesuch. But then I have to change the ":file filename.png" to ":file filename.pdf", which is quite cumbersome to do every time I want to export.
Is there some wcy people have for dealing with this situation? Some options setting maybe?
Thanks.
--
Ken Williams
Senior Research Scientist
Thomson Reuters
http://labs.thomsonreuters.com
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* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export
2011-05-18 21:07 ` Options for HTML & PDF export Ken.Williaos
@ 2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos
2011-05-18 21:28 ` Ken.Williams
2011-05-19 9:45 ` Sebastien Vauban
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2011-05-18 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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<Ken.Williams@thomsonreuters.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for
> managing the export to both HTML & PDF. For the HTML I generate the
> graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG format doesn't embed very
> well,
What is the problem with PNG exactly? I've never had any problems
incorporating them into a PDF. It is a bitmap format, so it will not
suffer extreme changes in magnification without some ugliness of course,
but other than that I don't know of any problems.
Nick
> so I need to generate PDF or EPS or somesuch. But then I have
> to change the ":file filename.png" to ":file filename.pdf", which is
> quite cumbersome to do every time I want to export.
>
> Is there some way people have for dealing with this situation? Some options setting maybe?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Ken Williams
> Senior Research Scientist
>
> Thomson Reuters
>
> http://labs.thomsonreuters.com
>
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* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export
2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2011-05-18 21:28 ` Ken.Williams
2011-05-19 12:28 ` Christophe Rhodes
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From: Ken.Williams @ 2011-05-18 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 5/18/11 4:19 PM, "Nick Dokos" <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
><Ken.Williams@thomsonreuters.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for
>> managing the export to both HTML & PDF. For the HTML I generate the
>> graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG format doesn't embed very
>> well,
>
>What is the problem with PNG exactly? I've never had any problems
>incorporating them into a PDF. It is a bitmap format, so it will not
>suffer extreme changes in magnification without some ugliness of course,
>but other than that I don't know of any problems.
That is exactly the problem =). It does include itself into the document,
it just doesn't look very nice. Since these are data-based graphics
coming from R, their lines should be nice & crisp, but they end up looking
pretty fuzzy.
--
Ken Williams
Senior Research Scientist
Thomson Reuters
http://labs.thomsonreuters.com
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* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export
2011-05-18 21:07 ` Options for HTML & PDF export Ken.Williaos
2011-05-18 21:19 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2011-05-19 9:45 ` Sebastien Vauban
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From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2011-05-19 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Hi Ken,
<Ken.Williaos-qs4m+OjfQoH+fug3k4jHmNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I use the Babel features of org-mode to do a sort of literate-programming
> thing. I have lots of R code that generates graphics which get included into
> an exported HTML or PDF (via LaTeX) document.
>
> I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for managing
> the export to both HTML & PDF.
Just by curiosity, what don't use like that term?
> For the HTML I generate the graphics files as PNG, but for PDF the PNG
> format doesn't embed very well, so I need to generate PDF or EPS or
> somesuch. But then I have to change the ":file filename.png" to ":file
> filename.pdf", which is quite cumbersome to do every time I want to export.
>
> Is there some wcy people have for dealing with this situation? Some options
> setting maybe?
I've no time to customize it to your particular needs, but here's something
you can update to map it to your needs:
#+begin_src org
#+BABEL: :results (if (and (boundp 'backend) (eq backend 'latex)) "latex" "file")
#+end_src
Please post your solution for the sake of further sharing...
Best regards,
Seb
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Sébastien Vauban
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* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export
2011-05-18 21:28 ` Ken.Williams
@ 2011-05-19 12:28 ` Christophe Rhodes
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From: Christophe Rhodes @ 2011-05-19 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
<Ken.Williams@thomsonreuters.com> writes:
> On 5/18/11 4:19 PM, "Nick Dokos" <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
>>What is the problem with PNG exactly? I've never had any problems
>>incorporating them into a PDF. It is a bitmap format, so it will not
>>suffer extreme changes in magnification without some ugliness of course,
>>but other than that I don't know of any problems.
>
> That is exactly the problem =). It does include itself into the document,
> it just doesn't look very nice. Since these are data-based graphics
> coming from R, their lines should be nice & crisp, but they end up looking
> pretty fuzzy.
For what it's worth, I've been experimenting with the tikzDevice R
graphics device. I have in the preamble of my current document
#+srcname: orgrsetup
#+begin_src R :session *R* :exports none :results none
library(tikzDevice)
org.device <- function(name, ext) {
file <- sprintf("%s.%s", name, ext)
switch(ext,
"png"=png(file, width=480, height=384),
"tikz"=tikz(file, width=5, height=4))
}
org.raw <- function(name, ext) {
file <- sprintf("%s.%s", name, ext)
switch(ext,
"png"=sprintf("[[file:%s]]", file),
"tikz"=sprintf("#+LaTeX: \\input{%s}", file))
}
#+end_src
and then I use
#+begin_src R :session *R* :exports results :results value raw :var name="filename" :var ext=(csr-org-export-babel-graphics-extension)
org.device(name, ext)
# draw the picture here
dev.off()
org.raw(name,ext)
#+end_src
where csr-org-export-babel-graphics-extension returns "tikz" if the
backend is latex, and png otherwise. This (with a bit more work on the
R side) gives me scalable graphics with fonts matching the PDF
document's fonts going through LaTeX, and acceptable-quality HTML.
(Which is something I've been looking for for the last six years, so I'm
quite pleased at the moment :-)
I hope this helps to provide some ideas.
Cheers,
Christophe
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* Re: Options for HTML & PDF export
@ 2011-05-20 19:47 Ken.Williams
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From: Ken.Williams @ 2011-05-20 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Sebastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@...> writes:
>
> <Ken.Williams@...> wrote:
> > [...]
> > I'm wondering about "best practices" (though I hate that term) for
>managing
> > the export to both HTML & PDF.
>
> Just by curiosity, what don't use like that term?
I'm not sure - I just hear it used a lot as sort of a "trump card" when
someone wants to impress someone else with how great their methods are, or
if they want to squash someone else's "non-compliant" tool usage.
In this case though, I'm perfectly willing to be impressed with someone's
method. =)
> I've no time to customize it to your particular needs, but here's
>something
> you can update to map it to your needs:
>
> #+begin_src org
> #+BABEL: :results (if (and (boundp 'backend) (eq backend 'latex))
>"latex" "file")
> #+end_src
Thanks Seb, I'll try working with that. I haven't ever done any Lisp
stuff in org-mode, so I may be a little bit lost here, but I'll experiment
a bit.
Is there somewhere in the orgmode manual that talks about where Lisp can
be embedded in documents for interpolation like this? I hadn't seen that
kind of thing before.
>
> Please post your solution for the sake of further sharing...
Definitely will if I find something useful!
--
Ken Williams
Senior Research Scientist
Thomson Reuters
http://labs.thomsonreuters.com
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