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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: smade4@gmail.com
Cc: Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANN] List improvement v.2
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:17:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C18995C5-BC5B-476C-9542-79DFF21173AF@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mxsnegzy.fsf@gmail.com>

Hi Alex,

On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Glauber Alex Dias Prado wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Glauber Alex Dias Prado wrote:
>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nicolas,
>>>>
>>>> I have finally started to look at your changes to the list
>>>> implementation.
>>>> Lots of it is very good!  I like for example that TAB indentation  
>>>> now
>>>> works
>>>> a lot better.
>>>>
>>>> Here are a few problems I noted so far:
>>>>
>>>> 1 Error when pressing M-RET in second line after list
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> - Example item1
>>>> - Exmaple item2
>>>>
>>>> With cursor position at "@", M-RET throws an error
>>>>
>>>> 2 Incompatibility 1
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> - Example 1
>>>> - Ex 2
>>>>
>>>> This used to be outside of the list.  The HTML exporter still  
>>>> treats
>>>> it as being outside of the list.  The LaTeX exporter treats it as
>>>> part of the last item.  If I add a second empty line, then both
>>>> exporters handle it well.
>>>>
>>>> So this breaks with documented properties of the lists.  I guess
>>>> this is unavoidable because this is just how the new list  
>>>> definition
>>>> works.  But it will break existing documents when exported to LaTeX
>>>>
>>>> 3 Text between two sublists
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> - Ex1
>>>> - Ex2
>>>>   - Ex2a
>>>>   - Ex2b
>>>>   Some text between two sublists
>>>>   - A new list starts
>>>>
>>>> This always was an inconsistency between HTML and LaTeX export, and
>>>> it
>>>> still is now.  There seems to be no way now to do what I intend  
>>>> here,
>>>> putting some text between two lists.
>>>
>>> preferably not only for lists, something like:
>>>
>>> * some stuff
>>> quick intro
>>> ** nest 1
>>>  stuff about nest1
>>> now what i dont think is possible and dont even know if it is  
>>> usually
>>> done on latex something that belongs to some stuff and is in between
>>> nest 1 and 2, i find it usefull for commenting on nests(thats why
>>> i miss it) and looks like it is the same thing you are wishing for
>>> lists?
>>> My use case for this is mostly note-taking.
>>> ** nest 2
>>>  stuff about nest2
>>>
>>> could be also usefull, if it makes sense, btw the lists are taking
>>> shape :).
>>
>> This has been discussed here a million times and it is not going to
>> happen.
>>
>> - Carsten
>
> Sorry i cant catchup on everything. I was thinking here could this be
> done as footnotes on org headings? the look certainly wouldnt be the
> same but perhaps the effect would, am gonna try it later, never played
> with footnotes export.

I am not sure if I understand what you are describing here, maybe you  
can make a detailed example of what you have in mind.

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-16  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-22 21:08 [ANN] List improvement v.2 Nicolas Goaziou
2010-07-23  7:55 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-07-23 16:58 ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-25 16:17   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-07-27 12:51 ` Scot Becker
2010-07-27 14:50   ` Daniel Martins
2010-07-27 17:49   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-15  6:26 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-08-15  8:45   ` Glauber Alex Dias Prado
2010-08-15 11:29     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-15 14:40     ` Carsten Dominik
2010-08-15 20:52       ` Glauber Alex Dias Prado
2010-08-16  7:17         ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-08-15 13:21   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-15 14:07     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-17 17:24 ` Request for opinions: [ANN] List improvement v.2o Carsten Dominik
2010-08-17 17:25 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-08-17 18:02   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-18  6:53   ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-08-18 22:50     ` Daniel Martins
2010-08-18  7:38   ` Christian Moe
2010-08-18  9:09     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-18 12:39       ` Christian Moe
2010-08-20  0:56   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-21 11:29     ` Bernt Hansen
2010-08-21 14:18       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-08-21 14:22         ` Bernt Hansen
2010-08-27  8:24 ` [ANN] List improvement v.2 Carsten Dominik
2010-08-27 10:57   ` Bernt Hansen
2010-09-02  8:13 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-03  8:39   ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-03 14:34     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-03 17:16       ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-03 20:26         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-03 20:42           ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-03 15:06     ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-04  3:54   ` Matt Lundin
2010-09-04 10:24     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-04 11:36       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-04 12:09         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-07 11:25           ` Strange behavior of M-RET with new list improvements Anthony Lander
2010-09-07 11:46             ` Bernt Hansen
2010-09-07 12:05               ` Anthony Lander
2010-09-07 17:11             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-17 13:01               ` [Bug] Level 2 text not exported in LaTeX (well in HTML) + some comments Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-17 15:29                 ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-18 18:02                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-18 21:53                     ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-19  9:24                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-19 21:07                         ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-20  7:54                         ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-22 11:35                         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-22 20:21                           ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-22 21:31                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-18 17:44                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2010-09-19 21:01                   ` Sébastien Vauban

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