From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: [ANN] List improvement v.2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:17:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ocdzw7gq.wl%n.goaziou@gmail.com> <256365B6-8D44-4EC3-A4A5-935ED090DFFD@gmail.com> <8739ugfem9.fsf@gmail.com> <87mxsnegzy.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34939 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oktwm-0002hB-F4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:17:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oktwg-0003Eg-MX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:17:28 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:36775) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oktwg-0003EV-H0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:17:22 -0400 Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so2303695ewy.0 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:17:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87mxsnegzy.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: smade4@gmail.com Cc: Org Mode List , Nicolas Goaziou Hi Alex, On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Glauber Alex Dias Prado wrote: > Carsten Dominik writes: > >> On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Glauber Alex Dias Prado wrote: >> >>> Carsten Dominik writes: >>> >>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>> >>>> I have finally started to look at your changes to the list >>>> implementation. >>>> Lots of it is very good! I like for example that TAB indentation >>>> now >>>> works >>>> a lot better. >>>> >>>> Here are a few problems I noted so far: >>>> >>>> 1 Error when pressing M-RET in second line after list >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> - Example item1 >>>> - Exmaple item2 >>>> >>>> With cursor position at "@", M-RET throws an error >>>> >>>> 2 Incompatibility 1 >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> - Example 1 >>>> - Ex 2 >>>> >>>> This used to be outside of the list. The HTML exporter still >>>> treats >>>> it as being outside of the list. The LaTeX exporter treats it as >>>> part of the last item. If I add a second empty line, then both >>>> exporters handle it well. >>>> >>>> So this breaks with documented properties of the lists. I guess >>>> this is unavoidable because this is just how the new list >>>> definition >>>> works. But it will break existing documents when exported to LaTeX >>>> >>>> 3 Text between two sublists >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> - Ex1 >>>> - Ex2 >>>> - Ex2a >>>> - Ex2b >>>> Some text between two sublists >>>> - A new list starts >>>> >>>> This always was an inconsistency between HTML and LaTeX export, and >>>> it >>>> still is now. There seems to be no way now to do what I intend >>>> here, >>>> putting some text between two lists. >>> >>> preferably not only for lists, something like: >>> >>> * some stuff >>> quick intro >>> ** nest 1 >>> stuff about nest1 >>> now what i dont think is possible and dont even know if it is >>> usually >>> done on latex something that belongs to some stuff and is in between >>> nest 1 and 2, i find it usefull for commenting on nests(thats why >>> i miss it) and looks like it is the same thing you are wishing for >>> lists? >>> My use case for this is mostly note-taking. >>> ** nest 2 >>> stuff about nest2 >>> >>> could be also usefull, if it makes sense, btw the lists are taking >>> shape :). >> >> This has been discussed here a million times and it is not going to >> happen. >> >> - Carsten > > Sorry i cant catchup on everything. I was thinking here could this be > done as footnotes on org headings? the look certainly wouldnt be the > same but perhaps the effect would, am gonna try it later, never played > with footnotes export. I am not sure if I understand what you are describing here, maybe you can make a detailed example of what you have in mind. - Carsten