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From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: Tim O'Callaghan <timo@dspsrv.com>
Cc: org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:40:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ADBCB163-FCCF-424B-88BB-5EAD457378F8@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d6808890902151418y564c4f86w44d0cea114e126a7@mail.gmail.com>


On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

>>
>> This is what I have done extensively in the manual, but this has not
>> kept people from doing (require 'org) in .emacs.
>>
>> I have been fighting hard to get people to use (require 'org- 
>> install),
>> so I did not want to punish them when they move to Emacs 23 and want
>> to use the Emacs version.  Admittedly, this is not very likely.
>>
>> Also, I do want to keep the option that org-install will do more than
>> just install autoloads.
>>
>> So while I don't have strong feelings about removing org-install
>> from Emacs again, I cannot really see the point either.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>
> The usage of org-install has the pre-requisite of having to compile
> the org.el files. This is no use to people like myself, who want to
> use the same .el files in XEmacs and Emacs due to incompatible .elc
> problems. Its also no use to people who do no have a build system or
> make binary installed e.g. windows users, locked down linux/unix
> systems etc.
>
> How about adding a skeleton org-install.el that gets overwritten by  
> the make?

org-install.el is part of the distribution tar and zip files.
I cannot include it into the git repo because the git people tell
me that it is a bad idea to keep a product file under git
control (Bernt?).

The fact that producing org-install.el triggers some code
compilation (org org.el, to be exact, the others are compiled
because org.el depends on them) is a bug that I do not
understand - any make gurus around here who can sort this out?

If you have a system without make, then you should probably
not rely on the git distribution, but rather on the
snapshots.

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-15 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-15  7:50 org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed Leo
2009-02-15 20:03 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-15 22:18   ` Tim O'Callaghan
2009-02-15 22:40     ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-02-16  3:32       ` Bernt Hansen
2009-02-24 15:38         ` Tim O'Callaghan

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