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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:03:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E8AEAB03-5610-4F69-8CBF-31E404DEC00E@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83d4dkyw94.fsf@cam.ac.uk>


On Feb 15, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Leo wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> I just notice there is a dummy file in emacs/lisp/org. The use of this
> file hides problems away for example if users install org to a dir  
> that
> is overshadowed by the lisp/org in emacs (this happen quite often to
> newbies too). Two files with the same name but different content also
> confuse other users.
>
> I think for users using both standalone and included org versions, the
> cleaner and better way is to use one of the following
>
>  (load "org-install" t) or (require 'org-install nil t)
>
> in their own .emacs files if they want to avoid error (we can put this
> in the documentation). But I guess some will prefer emacs to throw an
> error when that org-install that does autoloads is missing.
>
> Pointing out the install procedure is only for installing standalone  
> org
> package is also sufficient.

This is what I have done extensively in the manual, but this has not
kept people from doing (require 'org) in .emacs.

I have been fighting hard to get people to use (require 'org-install),
so I did not want to punish them when they move to Emacs 23 and want
to use the Emacs version.  Admittedly, this is not very likely.

Also, I do want to keep the option that org-install will do more than
just install autoloads.

So while I don't have strong feelings about removing org-install
from Emacs again, I cannot really see the point either.

- Carsten

next prev parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-15 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-15  7:50 org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed Leo
2009-02-15 20:03 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-02-15 22:18   ` Tim O'Callaghan
2009-02-15 22:40     ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-16  3:32       ` Bernt Hansen
2009-02-24 15:38         ` Tim O'Callaghan

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