From: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
To: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@supelec.fr>,
"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: org-ref in action
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:08:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbrnu5k5.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ51ETrEt0OEP9wWTp1D8qNj2kwNsmZ0ER5MREucHXatfNw1NA@mail.gmail.com> (John Kitchin's message of "Thu, 26 Jun 2014 08:48:05 -0400")
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in
> that org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for
> searching, and org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend
> database, and tag/property searches (I think). It is like the
> difference between org-contacts and bbdb. They both serve similar
> needs, but with different data sources, and different ways to think
> about it.
Yes, org-bibtex.el generally precludes the use of reftex to enter
citations. I get around this problem with a custom perl script, which
runs automatically in the background, extracts all org-bibtex data, and
deposits it in a central bib file.
> We might be able to figure out a way to specify a "backend" that would
> allow the independent features to work in both though.
I think the key in any possible feature merge is to remember citation
management is idiosyncratic. I.e., org-mode should offer helper
functions that enable individuals to customize their own workflows
rather than "systems" that dictate a particular workflow (e.g., a single
notes file) or presuppose a specific export backend. For instance,
org-mode citation tools should not assume that users will export via
bibtex/bibtex2html rather than, say, biber/biblatex or pandoc (which now
has a powerful, format-agnostic citation filter).[1]
Best,
Matt
Footnotes:
[1] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/demo/example19/Citations.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-26 14:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-24 18:45 org-ref in action John Kitchin
2014-06-24 19:26 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-06-24 20:53 ` Ista Zahn
2014-06-25 2:13 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-25 8:28 ` Bastien
2014-06-25 16:26 ` Vikas Rawal
2014-06-25 20:25 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-26 1:09 ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-26 1:10 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-26 12:21 ` Fabrice Popineau
2014-06-26 12:48 ` John Kitchin
2014-06-26 14:08 ` Matt Lundin [this message]
2014-06-26 14:09 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-26 14:11 ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-26 14:13 ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-26 14:33 ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2014-06-26 14:39 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-26 17:19 ` Alan Schmitt
2014-06-26 18:44 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-27 4:27 ` Xebar Saram
2014-06-27 7:37 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-06-27 7:38 ` Vikas Rawal
2014-06-27 7:52 ` Melleus
2014-06-27 13:39 ` Ista Zahn
2014-06-27 23:56 ` John Kitchin
2014-06-27 6:44 ` Alan Schmitt
2014-06-27 14:26 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-27 17:19 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-27 15:49 ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-26 16:14 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-27 6:55 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-29 10:18 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-29 12:09 ` John Kitchin
2014-06-29 18:19 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-29 18:23 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-30 9:29 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-30 9:52 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-30 10:06 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-30 10:22 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-30 11:27 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-08-05 18:28 ` Xebar Saram
2014-08-05 21:08 ` John Kitchin
2014-08-06 10:54 ` Xebar Saram
2014-08-06 12:51 ` John Kitchin
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2014-06-25 5:57 Leu Zhe
2014-06-26 22:33 Doyley, Marvin M.
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