From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Lundin Subject: Re: org-ref in action Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:08:26 -0500 Message-ID: <87vbrnu5k5.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <87wqc4wxbe.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvisbhnb.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43995) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0ALq-0007oJ-OL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:08:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0ALk-0001pR-7U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:08:34 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:60574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0ALj-0001pL-W4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:08:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (John Kitchin's message of "Thu, 26 Jun 2014 08:48:05 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: Fabrice Popineau , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Eric Schulte John Kitchin writes: > Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in > that org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for > searching, and org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend > database, and tag/property searches (I think). =C2=A0It is like the > difference between org-contacts and bbdb. They both serve similar > needs, but with different data sources, and different ways to think > about it. Yes, org-bibtex.el generally precludes the use of reftex to enter citations. I get around this problem with a custom perl script, which runs automatically in the background, extracts all org-bibtex data, and deposits it in a central bib file. > We might be able to figure out a way to specify a "backend" that would > allow the independent features to work in both though. I think the key in any possible feature merge is to remember citation management is idiosyncratic. I.e., org-mode should offer helper functions that enable individuals to customize their own workflows rather than "systems" that dictate a particular workflow (e.g., a single notes file) or presuppose a specific export backend. For instance, org-mode citation tools should not assume that users will export via bibtex/bibtex2html rather than, say, biber/biblatex or pandoc (which now has a powerful, format-agnostic citation filter).[1] Best, Matt Footnotes: [1] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/demo/example19/Citations.html