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From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@supelec.fr>
Cc: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>,
	"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: org-ref in action
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 08:48:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ51ETrEt0OEP9wWTp1D8qNj2kwNsmZ0ER5MREucHXatfNw1NA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFgFV9OBQu_-i0Etn95ifSCOrMMa9ejq-ajGgOhuOwtS6jvuFw@mail.gmail.com>

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Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in that
org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for searching, and
org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend database, and tag/property
searches (I think).  It is like the difference between org-contacts and
bbdb. They both serve similar needs, but with different data sources, and
different ways to think about it.

We might be able to figure out a way to specify a "backend" that would
allow the independent features to work in both though.

John

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On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Fabrice Popineau <
fabrice.popineau@supelec.fr> wrote:

>
> +1 for org-bibtex (and ox-bibtex) that I'm using for a couple of years.
>
> But org-ref seems to go further (video is convincing).
> It would be really nice to merge org-ref and org-bibtex before they split
> too far apart.
> Wishful thinking from me because I don't see that I'm in position to do it.
>
> Fabrice
>
>
> 2014-06-26 3:10 GMT+02:00 Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>:
>
> Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >
>> > This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented.
>> >
>> > Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and
>> > contrib?  And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all
>> > independently?
>> >
>> > I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is
>> > that no-one knows it exists.
>>
>> Well, you can count on one big fan of org-bibtex.el here! (Though I must
>> admit that I have not used ox-bibtex.el.)
>>
>> > To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast
>> > demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality.
>> >
>> > https://vimeo.com/99167082
>>
>> Thanks! Over the years, I've particularly appreciated the way
>> org-bibtex.el makes it easy to keep bib data together with notes/todos.
>> Both org-bibtex-read and org-bibtex-yank have become indispensable to my
>> own workflow.
>>
>> Best,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-26 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-24 18:45 org-ref in action John Kitchin
2014-06-24 19:26 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-06-24 20:53 ` Ista Zahn
2014-06-25  2:13 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-25  8:28 ` Bastien
2014-06-25 16:26 ` Vikas Rawal
2014-06-25 20:25 ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-26  1:09   ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-26  1:10   ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-26 12:21     ` Fabrice Popineau
2014-06-26 12:48       ` John Kitchin [this message]
2014-06-26 14:08         ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-26 14:09           ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-26 14:11           ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-26 14:13             ` Ken Mankoff
2014-06-26 14:33             ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2014-06-26 14:39             ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-26 17:19               ` Alan Schmitt
2014-06-26 18:44                 ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-27  4:27                   ` Xebar Saram
2014-06-27  7:37                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-06-27  7:38                     ` Vikas Rawal
2014-06-27  7:52                       ` Melleus
2014-06-27 13:39                     ` Ista Zahn
2014-06-27 23:56                     ` John Kitchin
2014-06-27  6:44                   ` Alan Schmitt
2014-06-27 14:26                     ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-27 17:19                       ` Matt Lundin
2014-06-27 15:49               ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-26 16:14         ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-27  6:55         ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-29 10:18 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-29 12:09   ` John Kitchin
2014-06-29 18:19   ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-29 18:23     ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-30  9:29     ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-30  9:52       ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-30 10:06         ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-06-30 10:22           ` Eric Schulte
2014-06-30 11:27             ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-08-05 18:28               ` Xebar Saram
2014-08-05 21:08                 ` John Kitchin
2014-08-06 10:54                   ` Xebar Saram
2014-08-06 12:51                     ` John Kitchin
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2014-06-25  5:57 Leu Zhe
2014-06-26 22:33 Doyley, Marvin M.

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